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School for counseling?

I am in school right now for my master's degree in HR and I am thinking about wanting to focus on counseling/employee relations.  It seems that the best way to do this is to go to school (even more - ick) for something counseling-related. 

 Can anyone provide insight on schools that have a certificate in counseling?  Or anyone that works in HR - please feel free to advise away on ways to move into this section of HR.

Totally random question and I may not even be asking this properly...  :)  I hope it makes sense though!

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Re: School for counseling?

  • weird, I was in HR and will be pursing my counseling degree, so I guess I'm a good one to ask! In fact it was the hell of HR that made me think  never wanted to be a therapist...until I realized, literally this past year, the difference is in HR you have involuntary clients (vs therapy where I'll pursue work with people who want to be in therapy.)

    Counseling and employee relations are *TOTALLY SEPARATE* areas.  Counseling is a relationship you build with another person, there are legal components, it's a paid relationship, totally outside being an HR person.

    Employee relations is about managing employee drama, fitting the corporate policies and handbooks, with state and federal law, dealing with managers, employees, attorney.  I hated it all.  Some HR folks are amazing at it though.

    The stress for me was you are not COUNSELING in employee relations as much as carefully playing this dance of hell where you and the supervisor may talk about certain things, giving limited information to the employee, sharing other things with your HR boss.  It's a brutal game of censorship, strategy, and legal saving-your-butt by documenting the fool out of every single thing you do.

    That said, the U of MN offers really cool basic Counseling Skills class I took this summer.  But being a former HR person going into the therapy profession, the are totally different career paths with different clients, goals, and games. :)

    hth!

  • What kind of counseling are you interested in?  Like Elizabeth said, the two are totally separate.  I used to be in Social Work and now heading in the HR direction (so basically the opposite, haha) so if you want a perspective from the other direction, I can give you more info.  I know St. Thomas also has a great master's counseling program that several of my former colleagues have been through or are currently attending.
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  • I said employee relations, but I'm really thinking about wanting to work in employee assistance programs.  But after reading the posts, it makes sense that it would be totally separate if I am really thinking about the counseling side.  I was trying to picture the EAPs that I have seen and I imagine that there is a lot more to it with liability with the company, etc.  So maybe refiguring out if I want to go into a strictly counseling role outside of HR is where I should start.  Thanks!
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