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=( here we go again w/ my job

What is worse? Posts venting about my job (like my old job), or these sadass posts..

This patient, who has lung & liver CA, just called to tell me to tell the Dr that she decided she is not going to do any treatment she wants "to let nature take its course."

She is 80.

Of course I "understand."

Apparently my little heart is not as hard as I thought it was, bc shitlikethis makes me sad.

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Re: =( here we go again w/ my job

  • You know, I think I could do your job all day, every day.  Stuff like that, with strangers, doesn't bother me.  At all.
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  • I think that working in the ER was a little easier bc many times the people that were in there did the stuff to themselves.

    Or, this other patient that has called me twice today bc he is in "pain." .. He has chronic pancreatitis..Well, quit drinking. He has a history of alcohol abuse- I do not feel bad for him what-so-ever.

    I think it's the patients w/ the CA that get me.

    I know it's strangers, and it's kind of weird that I feel for them. I think because when they are in the office I talk to them, and try to make them feel as comfortable as possible. I usually end up talking w/ them quite a bit about whatever.

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  • Maybe once I've been in this field for a little longer it won't bother me as badly. I've only been in my current position for 6mths. I've only had 1 patient that I met die. Maybe once I've got a few more deaths under my belt It won't bother me.

    That sounds so horrible.

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  • It does sound horrible, but maybe you're right.  ::shrug::  I hope it gets better for you.
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  • Hang in there, Jena, it does get easier! When I first started working in the ICU it was really hard on me because we have a lot of patients die. However, after being there for a while you get kind of hardned to it. It's not that you don't care, it just happens and you deal with it better. A lot of the time these people have been through nothing but torture in their final days and we are actually happy that they are finally at peace once they die. I have gone to work in tears knowing that I was going to be caring for a patient that was suffering for yet another night. THAT is what gets to me. Every once in a while you'll have a particualr pt or family that you get to know and bond with really well, and that is hard, but for the most part it is our jobs to be there for the pts and families and make them as comfortable as possible.

     Your patient is 80 years old and she has led a long life. Good for her for not wanting to go through the torutre of medical intervetion anymore. I hope she lives out the rest of her life with her loved ones as opposed to being stuck in a hospital bed, gorked out beyond recognition. She is a brave woman!

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  • Jena it is when it stops affecting you that you need to worry.  Ask any nurse or even a doctor.  On some level stuff like that affects them all.  But they will all tell you it is when it doesn't bother them that they need to find a new job. 
  • imagekelcat:
    Jena it is when it stops affecting you that you need to worry.  Ask any nurse or even a doctor.  On some level stuff like that affects them all.  But they will all tell you it is when it doesn't bother them that they need to find a new job. 

    This is SO true! I just wish that some people I know would realize this and find a new job.

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  • imagenicoleg1982:
    You know, I think I could do your job all day, every day.  Stuff like that, with strangers, doesn't bother me.  At all.

    Do you have a heart?  Any compassion?  Or are you just really self-absorbed?

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    imagenicoleg1982:
    You know, I think I could do your job all day, every day.  Stuff like that, with strangers, doesn't bother me.  At all.

    Do you have a heart?  Any compassion?  Or are you just really self-absorbed?

    I think some people can just shut off emotions, especially when it's someone that they don't even know and won't miss. I don't think Nicole is heartless. 

     

    I couldn't do your job, Jena. I get too into people. I don't mean to, and I certainly can pretend like it doesn't bother me. But I'd bet as soon as I got to my car I'd call Rob and start balling my eyes out. 

     

    /hug

  • imageGator_Bride08:
    imagemoonstone523:

    imagenicoleg1982:
    You know, I think I could do your job all day, every day.  Stuff like that, with strangers, doesn't bother me.  At all.

    Do you have a heart?  Any compassion?  Or are you just really self-absorbed?

    I think some people can just shut off emotions, especially when it's someone that they don't even know and won't miss. I don't think Nicole is heartless. 

    I don't really think she is heartless; she didn't give a virtual ":::shrug:::" up above. Wink

  • imagekelcat:
    Jena it is when it stops affecting you that you need to worry.  Ask any nurse or even a doctor.  On some level stuff like that affects them all.  But they will all tell you it is when it doesn't bother them that they need to find a new job. 

    I don't think all doctors are like that by any means.  My sister and her ex-husband met in med school.  Hearing the way they talked about their patients like they were hunks of meat was pretty disturbing to me because I am an emotional person.  If they ever did create a death panel, my sister would volunteer to be on it.  Some people are just not very emotionally affected by illness and mortality.

     

  • imageFLVintageBride:

    imagekelcat:
    Jena it is when it stops affecting you that you need to worry.  Ask any nurse or even a doctor.  On some level stuff like that affects them all.  But they will all tell you it is when it doesn't bother them that they need to find a new job. 

    I don't think all doctors are like that by any means.  My sister and her ex-husband met in med school.  Hearing the way they talked about their patients like they were hunks of meat was pretty disturbing to me because I am an emotional person.  If they ever did create a death panel, my sister would volunteer to be on it.  Some people are just not very emotionally affected by illness and mortality.

     

    lol @ hunks of meat. Sorry, that made me giggle.

     I agree that all Doctors are not compassionate- I think it depends on various things. Personality, how long they've been in the field, they "type" of Doctor that they are.

    I think talking about them like they are a hunk of meat is a coping mechanisim.

    I don't think Nicole is heartless, just doesn't care much for people she doesn't know, and that is okay, being in the medical field might be easier if I felt the same way.

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  • imageStingShark425:
    imageFLVintageBride:

    imagekelcat:
    Jena it is when it stops affecting you that you need to worry.  Ask any nurse or even a doctor.  On some level stuff like that affects them all.  But they will all tell you it is when it doesn't bother them that they need to find a new job. 

    I don't think all doctors are like that by any means.  My sister and her ex-husband met in med school.  Hearing the way they talked about their patients like they were hunks of meat was pretty disturbing to me because I am an emotional person.  If they ever did create a death panel, my sister would volunteer to be on it.  Some people are just not very emotionally affected by illness and mortality.

     

    lol @ hunks of meat. Sorry, that made me giggle.

     I agree that all Doctors are not compassionate- I think it depends on various things. Personality, how long they've been in the field, they "type" of Doctor that they are.

    I think talking about them like they are a hunk of meat is a coping mechanism.

    I don't think Nicole is heartless, just doesn't care much for people she doesn't know, and that is okay, being in the medical field might be easier if I felt the same way.

    That. 

  • imageGator_Bride08:
    imageStingShark425:
    imageFLVintageBride:

    imagekelcat:
    Jena it is when it stops affecting you that you need to worry.  Ask any nurse or even a doctor.  On some level stuff like that affects them all.  But they will all tell you it is when it doesn't bother them that they need to find a new job. 

    I don't think all doctors are like that by any means.  My sister and her ex-husband met in med school.  Hearing the way they talked about their patients like they were hunks of meat was pretty disturbing to me because I am an emotional person.  If they ever did create a death panel, my sister would volunteer to be on it.  Some people are just not very emotionally affected by illness and mortality.

     

    lol @ hunks of meat. Sorry, that made me giggle.

     I agree that all Doctors are not compassionate- I think it depends on various things. Personality, how long they've been in the field, they "type" of Doctor that they are.

    I think talking about them like they are a hunk of meat is a coping mechanism.

    I don't think Nicole is heartless, just doesn't care much for people she doesn't know, and that is okay, being in the medical field might be easier if I felt the same way.

    That. 

    Maybe for some.  For my sister I am convinced it is because she is truly a self-absorbed person with very little capacity for compassion.  I know that sounds like a brutal assessment, but it's just honest.  Considering that she managed to find someone very similar in med school to marry (and then divorce), I am certain that there are plenty of other doctors that are in that boat.  I know there's really no point in this other than to say that not everyone in the world is very emotionally affected by strangers so for some there really isn't anything to "cope" with because they don't lose any sleep over it in the first place.

  • imageFLVintageBride:
    imageGator_Bride08:
    imageStingShark425:
    imageFLVintageBride:

    imagekelcat:
    Jena it is when it stops affecting you that you need to worry.  Ask any nurse or even a doctor.  On some level stuff like that affects them all.  But they will all tell you it is when it doesn't bother them that they need to find a new job. 

    I don't think all doctors are like that by any means.  My sister and her ex-husband met in med school.  Hearing the way they talked about their patients like they were hunks of meat was pretty disturbing to me because I am an emotional person.  If they ever did create a death panel, my sister would volunteer to be on it.  Some people are just not very emotionally affected by illness and mortality.

     

    lol @ hunks of meat. Sorry, that made me giggle.

     I agree that all Doctors are not compassionate- I think it depends on various things. Personality, how long they've been in the field, they "type" of Doctor that they are.

    I think talking about them like they are a hunk of meat is a coping mechanism.

    I don't think Nicole is heartless, just doesn't care much for people she doesn't know, and that is okay, being in the medical field might be easier if I felt the same way.

    That. 

    Maybe for some.  For my sister I am convinced it is because she is truly a self-absorbed person with very little capacity for compassion.  I know that sounds like a brutal assessment, but it's just honest.  Considering that she managed to find someone very similar in med school to marry (and then divorce), I am certain that there are plenty of other doctors that are in that boat.  I know there's really no point in this other than to say that not everyone in the world is very emotionally affected by strangers so for some there really isn't anything to "cope" with because they don't lose any sleep over it in the first place.

    You are right, I was not saying that it was necessarily a coping mechanism for your sister. I was just saying that in general, for some Doctors, talking the way that they do is, or could be just a coping mechanism.  But yes, some Drs are just down right uncompassionate, self absorbed, a*holes.  But, different personalities is what makes the world go round, right? Different strokes, for different folks.

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  • imageStingShark425:

    You are right, I was not saying that it was necessarily a coping mechanism for your sister. I was just saying that in general, for some Doctors, talking the way that they do is, or could be just a coping mechanism.  But yes, some Drs are just down right uncompassionate, self absorbed, a*holes.  But, different personalities is what makes the world go round, right? Different strokes, for different folks.

    IDK, the world would be a lot more pleasant and easy for me is everyone though the way that I do.  And it's all about me of course.  Stick out tongue

    In case your eyes are rolling right now, Laura, I'm being TIC.  Even I'm not that egotistical.  Angel

  • That did make me roll my eyes at all. It's the way you type things, not what you type. ;) Duuuuuuhhhhhhh.
  • imageGator_Bride08:
    That did make me roll my eyes at all. It's the way you type things, not what you type. ;) Duuuuuuhhhhhhh.

    But how do you know how I type them?  Are you stalking me?  Have you set up a camera to monitor me?  Why are you this interested in me?  I swear I'm really very boring and if you made a sweater with my skin it would be really really itchy, so don't get any ideas!

  • imageFLVintageBride:

    imageGator_Bride08:
    That did make me roll my eyes at all. It's the way you type things, not what you type. ;) Duuuuuuhhhhhhh.

    But how do you know how I type them?  Are you stalking me?  Have you set up a camera to monitor me?  Why are you this interested in me?  I swear I'm really very boring and if you made a sweater with my skin it would be really really itchy, so don't get any ideas!

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    (lol I creeped myself out with that. The pics I wanted to post are not nest appropriate.) 

  • imagenicoleg1982:
    You know, I think I could do your job all day, every day.  Stuff like that, with strangers, doesn't bother me.  At all.

    With this statement, I find it odd that social issues are the most important thing to you with regard to politics (or at least I think you have said that in previous posts). 

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  • It does get easier with time but I will say there are still times when it gets to me and I've been working with and around cancer patients for over 10 years.  Like today, when I found out that a woman I knew from networking had just died over Thanksgiving from pancreatic cancer.  She found out just before the holiday and within a week she was dead.  I didn't get choked up or cry but I did get this sick feeling in my stomach for a moment.  Other times, I am brought to tears.  It is our emotions that make us human so don't fret and know that you may very well be the bright light in that patient's day because you took the time to truly listen to them when they needed it most.
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