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Offensive FB Posts
I hate reading FB posts like these. They really bother me. A LOT. It just comes across as ignorant. Not all Americans are Christians.
?They say: We can't say Merry Christmas anymore, now we have to say Happy Holidays. They say: We can't call it a Christmas tree, it's now called a Holiday tree?, because it might offend someone. I say: If you don't like our "American Customs" and it offends you so much then LEAVE!!!!. These are traditions & HOLY days to most Americas... If you agree with this please post this as your status....MERRY CHRISTMAS !!! 
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Re: Offensive FB Posts
Without getting into a huge debate, I mostly agree with that post. Don't move to this country and then cry and complain that you don't want to hear "Merry Christmas"..... That's like me moving to Africa and complaining about them celebrating Kwanzaa, that's just ridiculous. Everyone should have the same rights.
I deal with a lot of businesses wanting to print Holiday cards around Christmas time. A lot of them celebrate Christmas but are afraid to put Merry Christmas on their greeting cards, for fear of offending someone. Yes, putting Happy Holidays or Seasons Greetings is the polite thing to do but if you are going to get offended by me celebrating Christmas, I don't want you as a customer anyway. I wouldn't be offended if I received a Happy Hanukkah card.
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I totally agree with you Aiden's Mommy! I hate posts like that. Not every person born in America is Christian. I don't see what the big deal is about saying Happy Holidays or Season's Greetings. No one is saying you can't celebrate Christmas, it's just acknowledgement that some people do celebrate something other than Christmas.
I guess it's just the assumption that every American is Christian that bothers me the most. It's like posts like that are saying that if you are not Christian then you are not really an American. Which is not true at all.
The part that upsets me is about leaving the country. There are many many Americans that have families that have been here for a VERY long time that don?t celebrate Christmas. They didn?t come here and just start b*tching about ?American? traditions. This is their home too.
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Agreed. Plenty of Americans do not celebrate Xmas. Although I do think people get offended for EVERYTHING nowadays. I do like to see Xmas decorations everywhere myself and really any fun decorations, no matter the holiday-religion tie to them.
It would be kinda weird if you went to Africa and they were celebrating Kwanzaa considering that it's a tradition that was started in 1966 in the United States.
Oh, and my family on one side has been in the U.S. for a couple of centuries and yet I'm not a Christian. The government has no right to tell private companies whether they can use "Merry Christmas" in their advertising or not- they are free to get a religious as they want in their correspondences with customers. I do, however, think it is smart of a business owner to evaluate whether or not his/her marketing is inclusive of all potential customers if he/she cares about their profitability.
PS: I'm holding my tongue and giving
instead.
Bottom line is, yes its not right to tell someone to "leave" (that is offensive), but its also not right to tell someone what they can and can not celebrate.
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And what about the people who DO celebrate a good ol' American Commercialized Christmas, but think Mary was just another Teen Mom Whore and Jesus' birth falls sometime mid-year?
This goes back to the English only debates. Let's just be a melting pot, already. Okay?
Ughh that annoys me, too. American does not equal Christian. Christmas is not an "American" tradition. It may seem like that to most people, but it is actually a Christian holiday that non-Christians choose to celebrate. If non-christians are free to celebrate Christmas or not celebrate. Saying Happy Holidays just helps to cover all the bases and be friendly during the holiday season.
Another thing that bothers me is when people say "Jesus is the reason for the season." Well, I am a Christian and I say that's not the case. Jesus is the reason for Christmas, sure. But the "season" is a celebration of Thanksgiving and all the holidays that follow until the new year. People are also celebrating the change in weather and yummy hot cocoa drinks and some time off of work.
The most important holiday to any Christian really should be Easter. But nobody gets bent out of shape about that. I guess colored eggs in March/April aren't as nice of an incentive as all the presents in December to jump on the American=Christian bandwagon.
I'm not trying to lambaste you here, Chelsea, but your post makes a point of mine. Christian traditions are so ingrained in our cultural consciousness that the vast majority of non-Christians in this country are quite familiar with the basic principles and traditions of Christianity. Yet, there is so much ignorance of non-Christian traditions. I think that we would all be better served by striving to learn more about religions, cultures, and traditions that differ from our own.
No one is trying to say that Christians in this country can't practice their religion freely, just that they shouldn't jump to assume that every single American does or that it somehow makes them more American because they are Christian. Having grown up in church-going household, I have found as an agnostic adult that my views were received with much more respect when I claimed to be a Christian than they are now. It is hard being a non-Christian in this country- a fact that any non-Christian can attest to.
Good point Kendra.
I don?t think that most people get offended by the fact that people celebrate Christmas. I think it is the lack of acknowledgment of other holidays that are celebrated this time of year.
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I am not a super religious person, and I am at a point in my life where I am trying to figure out exactly what it is that I believe in.... but I still choose to celebrate Christmas.
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I celebrate all of the secular Christmas traditions too. Why shouldn't I? They're fun! I think there is a difference between complaining about private citizens or businesses celebrating Christmas and complaining about infiltrations of it into public schools, court houses, and other government institutions. The former to me is no big deal because if I don't like it I can either politely tell that person that I don't celebrate Christian holidays or I can choose not to patronize that business. The latter is where I think the real debate lies and where people on both sides get offended easily.
I recognize that you were distancing yourself from the "leave the country" comments, so don't think I'm lumping your opinion in with the FB post Liz posted. I understand that you are not saying you endorse everything that person said.
Say/celebrate Merry Christmas all you want but don't get offended when others don't celebrate it as well.
I have a FB friend who post shiit like "I am God fearing, gun toting, flag waving Conservative that Liberals warned you about". While I consider myself a Republican (for the most part but I have been questioning that lately) statements like this make me want to bang my head against the wall and are the EXACT reason why I am questioning my party affiliation.
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Ick. that fb post is so ignorant and it's sad that when people ask others to say Happy Holidays, others take it as we are deeply offended or asking you not to celebrate something. It's more like, hey, I might not celebrate Christmas but I would love a holiday greeting as well that applies to me. I personally don't get offended by someone saying Merry Christmas to me and I get tons of Christmas cards that I post on my fridge for the entire season, however I do get offended by people who throw a big temper tantrum and make gross posts about how they can't say Merry Christmas or make siggies that say "I think it's OK to say Merry Christmas" (yeah, i totally saw a nestie with this). Way to blow something out of proportion.
Also I would like to point out to your fb friend exactly what I say to my students and others when they make discriminatory comments -- we are all immigrants on some level unless you are 100% pure native american. If you are not, at some point your family migrated here and you were just lucky to be born here. Not everyone is so lucky so don't be an a-hole about it and act like you own this country and can tell others to get out if they don't agree with you.
:Happy holidays all!!
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I didn't read any of the posts except the OP, but I love how there is supposedly a "war on Christmas" and then the president comes on TV during the national christmas tree lighting and the first thing he says is "Merry Christmas." AND.... the next thing after that is a girl singing "O Holy Night."
People need to calm the f.uck down.