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LDS funds 77% of Prop 8
Wow. Wow, wow, wow.
Also, apparently YES on Prop 8 people are calling NO supporters, primarily gays an lesbians, and telling them to vote YES for gay marriage. UGH!
Mormons vs Civil Rights
-->People may be unaware that the top leadership of the LDS church has made banning gay couples from having any legal rights in California a supreme issue, part of a determined political campaign of unprecedented ferocity and organization. In California, this letter was sent to every congregation in California with direct instructions that it be read last June. Money quote:
The Church?s teachings and position on this moral issue are unequivocal. Marriage between a man and a woman is ordained of God, and the formation of families is central to the Creator?s plan for His children... Local Church leaders will provide information about how you may become involved in this important cause. We ask that you do all you can to support the proposed constitutional amendment by donating of your means and time to assure that marriage in California is legally defined as being between a man and a woman.
Mormon church leaders put out a broadcast across the country earlier this month insisting that Mormons contribute to and support Proposition 8. The broadcast featured two Elders from the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles:
BYU students from California listened in Provo stake centers on Wednesday, as LDS Church leaders led a broadcast regarding the church's support of Proposition 8... "You don't expect the church to get behind things like this," said Chelsea Martinez, 20, a statistics major from Gonzales, Calif., who viewed the broadcast at a local stake center.
Similar to other students attending the broadcast, Martinez's parents have participated in the church's effort by going door-to-door to identify voter preferences and are working to persuade undecided voters to help pass Proposition 8.
The LDS Church, from its very top, is waging war on the civil rights of gay Americans and gay Californians. If you want to do something to resist the organization behind 77 percent of the funding of this Proposition, you can donate to the fight for civil equality here. I might add that if gay Californians actually cared about this as much as straight Mormons appear to, the race would not be close.
Re: LDS funds 77% of Prop 8
grr...this double-talk really infuriates me. I'm sure the initiative sponsors worded it that way specifically so it would be confusing!
Several years ago there was an equal-rights-for-gays initiative here in WA and my mom got suckered into signing the petition AGAINST it because the group called themselves "Equal Rights, Not Special Rights". She called me and was all excited about signing it, because she knew it was important to me. She had NO idea it was for the other side!
This entire thing is appalling.
Think of all the people they could help with that money. Instead, it goes to fight against people who love each other having the right to be together and be at each other's bedsides in the hospital when they die.
This disgusts me. And it's not very Christian, imo.
In the post below, zoe found something suggesting they're so gung-ho as an effort to be more accepted by the wider Christian community. I cannot express the degree to which that makes me want to
All my mormon facebook friends are supporting it, including the one who updates his status every 8 hours to "Yes on 8! Save marriage and our children!"
I don't get their save our children line. Will they please elaborate on what will happen to children if gay adults are permitted to marry? It's not like removing marriage as an option makes them go into hiding. Kids will see the same exact thing whether marriage is allowed or not.
Law question: when there's an issue with so many double negatives like this, does that give grounds for questioning the validity of the results in court? I seem to remember, in some state I've lived in, that this has been an issue before.
The Yes campaign is making a huge deal out of the possibility of teaching gay marriage in schools, based on some Massachusetts ruling. Nevermind that none of us can remember learning anything about marriage in school. There's a commercial with a little girl that comes home and tells her mommy about how she learned in school that she can marry a princess. Yes it's as ridiculous as it sounds.
The proposition is to add a constitutional ammendment defining marriage between a man and a woman, so I'm not sure how you could avoid the double negatives, but the validity question is a good one. The Prop is titled "Eliminates the right of same-sex couples to marry" or some such, and the Yes campaign lost a court battle to change the "eliminates" wording.
This is exactly why I was freaked thefuck out by the move the polls took towards yes after the ads started.