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Article: Is it OK to cheer for Michael Vick?
I can't remember if we've discussed this or not, but I didn't think so and thought it might be interesting on a slow Friday afternoon.
I was just reading this article and thought it was really interesting.
What are your thoughts on Vick playing in the NFL? What about Obama calling the owner of the Eagles?
Re: Article: Is it OK to cheer for Michael Vick?
I've had this conversation a few times with people lately, and at one point I said, you know, he should have just done like half the players on the Falcons and shot someone outside a club or beat up his girlfriend, and we wouldn't be talking about it anymore.
But seriously... as a player, I think it's fine to cheer for him. But to slobber all over him like some of the sportscasters do and act like he's just a fabulous person because now he's doing charity work or whatever, no.
Someone recently said to me that they thought what he'd done had been blown out of proportion, but I completely disagree. Dog fighting involves severe animal cruelty and killing, and I don't think you can blow that out of proportion enough. I'm sorry, but he's just a bad person. There's something missing in your psychological makeup if you can rationalize that.
Personally, I don't. I also don't cheer on or support Chris Brown or Charlie Sheen. If others want to cheer him on while supporting their sports team, I don't have a problem with it. I also don't have a problem with others believing he has been rehabilitated and giving him another chance.
I do agree with DP that excessive cheering on gets the side-eye from me as he's no saint...not before or after the convictions I'm sure. But neither are a lot of other highly paid and praised athletes or celebrities out there.
Ditto and a million
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Other players in the NFL have commited horrific crimes against humans that have gone completely under the radar. That's messed up. So in that sense, I would say what he did was blown out of proportion.
I would also say that's okay to "slobber all over him" as a football player. He has been fan-flipping-tastic this season.
Theoretically I think he paid his dues, went to jail, and with the current state of the NFL, he should be allowed to play.
Personally, because animal cruelty is just so sickening to me, I could never cheer for him. My husband did make the arguement that if he wasn't allowed to play, he'd probably just end up back where he was and the dog fighting would continue on. At least due to his popularity I would think dog fighting was put in the forefront of people's minds and might be discouraged more now, or taken more seriously.
However, I also have a hard time with any felon in the NFL. I think glorifying these people given what some of them has done is awful. There are many jobs where if you're a felon, you're out for life. I don't know if being a professional athlete keeps them from repeating these actions, or enabling them... it's an interesting case study to say the least. In the end, it's a big, big business, and whatever makes the $$$ will prevail I believe, so I'm sure these people and their drama will always be there.
Oh, I agree that he's worth slobbering over as a player--I saw some of his clips from this past weekend and they were crazy. It's just that they typically pair slobbering over him as a player with apologist slobbering about how he's a better person now yapyapyap.
And yes, in comparison to the horrific things some players have done to other people, I suppose you could say making that big a deal out of cruelty to dogs is potentially out of proportion. But I think that's just the fault of how the NFL views crime in general. It's all weirdly disproportional.
Personally I think it's a little ridiculous that anyone is mortified over something like Favre's texts about having bad intentions or whatever. You're a grown woman. If you don't want a guy sexting you, tell him so or change your number. It really isn't that offensive in my eyes, and yet everyone is all OMG!! But on the other hand, I did feel like the bloom was off the rose this season in how people talked about Roethlisberger, and that was certainly called for, but it should have been more.
It is not OK for me to cheer on Michael Vick, the thought makes me nauseous. I also will not cheer on any of the other corrupt players in the NFL, I have chosen to boycott the entire league.
I think that it is okay to cheer for him. He has served his dues. Way more than people who have done more horrific things have served. Yes, what he did to the dogs were cruel and yes he should have served time, but people need to move on to other things. I am so glad that the news person from CNN, I think, got fired. He said that M.Vick should have been executed. Seriously? That is a little too far.
He shouldn't have been used as a "see what happens if you are rich" thing. People have done far worse to acutally people and have served less time.
I would cheer for him because he has turned the Eagles around. I don't really care who wins the Super Bowl. Everyone wants to turn it into a feel good story. Whatever. Does anyone talk about Ray Caruth (sp?) anymore? The Brett Farve, The Tiger Woods, The other million of people that are in news are just several issues that go on a daily basis. It is just the fact that they are rich and athletes. Would you really care about your neighbor's extra marital affair? or that they received sexy text messages from the mail man?
The NFL needs to set rules and follow them across the board. Trying to make an example out of someone just because you feel the pressure from the media or the viewers is not good enough.