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UO's
I'm sick of all the unmarried celebs who have popped up pregnant. I feel like it sets a bad example and it paints an unrealistic picture for the young twats who are going to follow in their footsteps because they worship them.
Celebs have a plethora of people, resources and money at their and their babies' disposal. Twat worshipers don't. So, we will continue to have unfit mothers (ala Janelle from Teen Mom 2) who leave their child alone in the bathtub, drop them at Wal-Mart because they have "things" to do and send them to school in short sleeves with no coat in the middle of January! Yay for cvntcanoes who sneeze and end up pregnant 
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Re: UO's
While I agree that a celebrity raising a baby is very different from your average-Jane-teenager raising a baby, I don't think that celebrities should automatically be abhorred just because they had a baby out of wedlock.I personally don't consider celebrities (or sports celebrities, for that matter...Kobe, anyone?) to be role models. I know I'm probably in the minority on that one.
The best thing we can do is set good examples for these girls in their everyday lives, and arm them with as much knowledge as we can squeeze into their brains. Teenage pregnancy isn't going to go away, but we can do our part to make sure that those girls (and boys) in our lives are cared for, even if they do make a poor decision and end up pregnant. I also don't think that calling them "twats" is helping anything.
I think adults may not look at celebs as role models, but a lot of teens do.
Society in general doesn't set a good example. I mean babies are born out of wedlock and mamas have 6 babies with 6 baby daddies and such every day. And not just teenagers, 30 year old women do this too.
H and I went out to lunch the other day (with the kids) and they forgot to ring in his meal so the manager came over to talk to us. She appologized and said something about how she was going to take care of his meal since he didn't want to have to eat after his wife, then she looked at my finger (I don't wear a wedding ring) and corrected herself to girlfriend. It made me sad that because I don't wear a ring it is assumed that I am knocked up for the third time by a guy who is not my husband.
I also think that if teens are taught pregnancy prevention and not just abstenance it would make a huge difference.
I completely agree with this. I think the rates would drop if they were taught safe sex instead of no sex. And I was a part of a team in Lawton that did abstinence education while I was in high school.
I think the media focuses too much on who's having a baby, who is/isn't married and having a baby etc., which makes kids think it's cool. Just like the sports media makes a big deal out of huge hits in football games and used to bypass how serious a concussion could be. I know it'll take time, but I'm hoping the focus will shift and teens will see things from different angles.
In regards to Chelsea on Teen Mom 2 being a spoiled brat...
I don't think she is. I didn't have a baby at 16 or anything, but my parents paid for my tuition and housing while I went to school. My sophomore year, they bought a house for me and two of my friends to live in. I didn't pay rent, and the condition was that if I did well in school and graduated from college, they would continue to make it easy for me to do so. I do not think I am a brat, or spoiled. I worked part time through my years at OU and made really good grades. (My major wasn't engineering or anything, but I worked hard and did impressive work). I had internships throughout college and made sure I was applying myself. We plan to do the same for B when/if he goes to school.
My point is, just because your parents help you out whenever you're in school, doesn't mean you're a brat.
(Because it will probably come up, once I got married I wasn't given money for anything anymore. They let us live in the house rent free until I graduated, and then we were expected to either pay rent to them or find a house of our own. We bought our own house after that).
I think there is a difference though. She seemed like she just figured she was 18 so she had he right to move out and into her own place (which she does), but it seemed to me like she expected her dad to pay for it. I also got the impression that she is not working and her dad is spending her dad's money to go shopping and whatnot too (and I'm no expert, but her clothes and purses and such don't look cheap). I also think there is a difference in doing that for a college student vs your kid still in hs who didn't finish hs because she got pregnant at 16.
I would feel differently if her dad was paying for her to go to college and she was living with him (I also got the impression that her house isn't far from his so it's not like she needed to move away or something to finish school).
I just think that at some point these kids have to realize that they made decisions and they have to live with the concequences of those choices. I feel like her dad is making to too easy for her.
I also don't think you are spoiled or a brat. Maybe its just the way she acts.
You're right, the situations are different. I don't know that I'd be too eager for B to move out on his own if he expected it and wasn't willing to work himself. I really hope that Chelsea finishes high school and then her dad tells her to go to college. She seems like a total daddy's girl, so I'm sure whatever he says will go.
I think her dad is trying to make the best out of a bad situation. She's finishing school and has no contact with the deadbeat baby daddy...maybe that's all he was hoping for. I would have higher expectations for my child, but maybe Chelsea isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer.
I also see the other side of it. If she works, she has to pay for daycare/childcare of some sort. It's just something else her dad would have to foot the bill for until she makes enough to pay for it herself. I think focusing on her graduating high school and moving on to a real job after that would be the best plan for her. Or college, but I don't know that that's really going to be an option if she thinks it's hard to finish high school and take care of a baby. College will be much, much worse.
I agree that her dad is trying to make the best out of a bad situation. Didn't she say though that baby daddy sees her once a month? And I thought in the previews it showed him moving in?
I understand that if she works she has to pay for childcare too. I also sort of got the feeling that her parents would be willing to help with that though.
I thought the same thing about her going to college though. If its hard to do HS college is harder! I had one class left to finish after V was born and I did it in 2 weekends and even that was hard. These girls def. won't have it easy.
Oh my goodness, my H is always saying this as well.
I totally agree.
I think if the founding fathers had been able to look into a crystal ball and see our world today, many of them probably would have reconsidered the 2nd Amendment, or at least reconsidered the wording.
Ditto.
I guess I was a weird kid. I never looked up to celebrities. I would appreciate their beauty, or acting skills, but other than that, I never cared what they did, and still don't, really. But, celebrities today are kind of a different breed than they were in the 80's.
I wonder about this for all demographics, not just celebrities. With packs of generic birth control pills selling for only $9/month from Target/Walmart/several other pharmacies (plus the cost of a yearly doctor visit), I'm amazed at how many women still unexpectedly get pregnant. Even if you're living hand to mouth,that's a whole lot cheaper and easier in the long run than having a baby. And if you're having unprotected sex, you should know that you're likely to end up pregnant- that is the biological point of sex after all.