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Stolen from MM: Once a cheater, always a cheater?

On the Entertainment board, they are discussing Jesse James getting engaged to Kat (tattoo reality star) and someone posted something along the lines of Kat being stupid for getting involved with a cheater and she deserves to be cheated on if she goes in this with open eyes.

(Kat is not the girl he cheated with, that was someone else) 

I assume people are saying the above becuase they are "team Sandra Bullock" but it makes you wonder.  Would you date/marry someone who you knew cheated on his exwife? do you believe a person can change that behaviour? 

Re: Stolen from MM: Once a cheater, always a cheater?

  • I do think someone can change that kind of behavior. I would be wary and I would go slow in the relationship, proceeding with caution, but I wouldn't count the guy out. 
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  • I have known a few, two that I can think of off the top of my head, people that have cheated once (with one another, actually) and then never done it again, but both of them are currently reconciled with their respective spouses. So yes, I think someone who cheats has the ability to change, but I would wonder about someone who doesn't seem to have made any attempt to reconcile with their spouse (even if said spouse then says "umm, I think not. Hit the road")

    I hope this made sense.

     

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  • Yes, I am in the "once a cheater" crowd, at least in theory. I do realize that some people only ever do it once, but I fully believe that the majority of the time, they'll do it again if given the chance.

    Specific to this situation, I believe that just the number of cheating occurrences  that were supposed to have happened should be enough to warn anyone! And I do think that his attitude is that he did nothing wrong, and that is a red flag to me.

    As an aside, I heard that Kat was indeed one of the ones he was rumored to have cheated with.

    Either way, it's a definite risk she's taking, but she's a big girl and (supposedly) knows what she's getting into. 

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    I do think someone can change that kind of behavior. I would be wary and I would go slow in the relationship, proceeding with caution, but I wouldn't count the guy out. 

    I agree.  I think you should definitely know what you're getting into but it doesn't mean that it's going to happen again.  I think I would have to take each situation as it came (not that it happens to me all the time).

  • I don't really think people change much over the years...at least not permanently.  I'd be wary and mistrustful.
  • Personally I would *never* be able to trust someone who had cheated in the past. Maybe that's close-minded, but it's true for me.
  • While it's not a given that a cheater will cheat again, it's not a hard line to cross, and once someone crosses it, there's no mental barrier to cross a second time because they know just how easy it is. So I wouldn't assume they would cheat again, but I would certainly be watching every move, indefinitely. of course there are a variety of reasons leading to the cheating that would give an indication as to the odds of it happening again. Like, were they just in a terrible relationship and met a good person that encouraged them to finally get out of it? Or are they just easily bored and have relationship ADD? Or pretending to be really stable or selfless when everyone knows they're bad news? In that case, yeah, always a cheater.
  • I cheated on almost every boyfriend I ever had. I have been with my husband the longest of everyone (5 years) and I have never cheated on him and never will.

    I do think that once you cheated on one guy or girl- thats it. But every relationship is a new start.

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  • No, I wouldn't date/marry someone who I knew cheated on their former SO.

    Yes, I do believe people can change but there's no guarantee - and I wouldn't want to waste my time with an individual who has that bit of defectiveness in their history.

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  • For me, like DP said, it would really depend on why they cheated in the first place. I definitely don't think, "Once a cheater always a cheater." I'm not saying that there's ever a good reason to cheat. There isn't,  but I have seen people who cheated, started a new life/relationship with that person and were never unfaithful again. Sometimes people are really just with the wrong person and don't always take the steps in the right order to get out and begin something new.
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  • I would have a really hard time trusting someone who cheated in the past.  I don't think that cheating once means you're definitely going to do it in the future, but I don't think I could give that person a chance. 
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  • This is an interesting debate. I'm not really sure how I would answer the question.  I personally have cheated in the past (on my ex, but we dated for several years before and after it happened.) But, I don't think it means I'm destined to repeat my actions. 

    For me, I'm horrified at myself that I ever let it happen.  I do feel like I learned a lot from it though, from all the seemingly innocent steps that lead to the bigger incidents. I feel like I have a much better appreciation of where the line is (should be) and can stay far away from it.  I also know what emotional responses in me are dangerous and I can recognize if a friendship is steering in the wrong direction long before things get ugly. So as funny as it is to say, I think cheating in my past relationship makes it far less likely that I will in this one.

     But, of course, I can only speak for myself.  Also, I don't know how I would feel about my DH. I do know that my ex-bf also cheated and I forgave him. In marriage though, that's a whole different story. In this relationship especially, I trust my husband so completely I can't even fathom it happening, but if it did, I know I wouldn't ever regain this same level of trust. I'd have to decide if I could live with that.

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