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Awkward position re: quitting - wwyd?
I gave my two weeks notice last Wed. As of today my boss hasn't notified anyone I'm leaving (big company). I mentioned today that I noticed I'm still being scheduled and she said she'd let them know "when appropriate". It has since come to my attention by a previous manager that the company has a policy that anyone going to work for a competitor (bank) be walked out at the time of notice. My boss is aware of where I'm going. Based on our terrible relationship and this knowledge, I believe she has delayed informing anyone I'm leaving to force me to work out my two weeks rather than allowing me to just get paid out for it. HR's confirms the policy but takes the official stance that until she notifies them I'm leaving, I'm not leaving (even though I faxed my resignation directly to them today they don't consider that official).
Since I've been made aware of the policy I am aware I am in violation of that policy. Now I'm concerned that if anything happens to any account I touch that it may come back on me or made to look like I was attempting something malicious. I don't care about the money aspect, I just want to cover myself. She made it very clear that if I didn't finish my two weeks I'd be listed ineligible for rehire, so it puts me in this hard position of ignorning the fact that I've been made aware of the policy or going to my manager directly to tell her I am aware.
WWYD?
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Re: Awkward position re: quitting - wwyd?
I'm confused about several points.
1. Won't you still get paid for the work you do, whether you are walked out or stay for 2 weeks?
2. Why are *you* in violation of the policy? Your boss is the person who's supposed to do whatever it is your bank does.
3. If you're ineligible for rehire if you don't work your 2 weeks, why would they walk you out before your 2 weeks?
4. Why not just go to your manager (who I'm assuming is not your supervisor?) and ask what to do in this situation?
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I might just quit on the spot. You have another job lined up... Do you need them as a reference? If not, I'd consider not going back tomorrow... especially if you think they might try to make it look like you were doing a bad job/performing malicious acts.
I should have done this when I left my last job. They refused to pay out my 3 weeks of accrued vacation even though I gave over 3 weeks notice. I stayed because I thought it was the right thing to do to honor my commitment, and the extra couple weeks of pay was nice. They also wouldn't let me tell my customers I was leaving until they said they were ready... that took over 2 weeks, so I looked like a schmuck to my customers of 4 years... even though I had given over 3 weeks. I really could have just walked out and had a nice 3 week vacation and not dealt with their crap and gone to my new job more refreshed and rested.
You might be missing the point of what 2 weeks notice means, regardless of any other policy regarding competitors. 2 weeks says, "I'm leaving in 2 weeks, and will work the next 2 weeks so you can prepare for my exit." It does not mean "I'm leaving in 2 weeks, but it would be so much better if you just paid me for that time and I didn't have to work."
That might not be what you're intending to communicate, but I sure read it that way.
In any event, work your 2 weeks. That following Monday, don't show up for work. You did what you were obligated to do.
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I think she understands what 2 weeks notice is. She's saying that she notified her boss and gave her 2 weeks. Then she found out that the bank's policy is that if you are going to work for a competitor (another bank) that you are walked out immediately but will still be paid for that 2 weeks of "notice." I'm sure it has to do with proprietary information/possible client theft. She thinks her boss is playing her because of a bad relationship, because the boss knows where she is going to work after this job and hasn't relayed the info to any superiors/HR. Essentially, her boss is making her work for that 2 weeks of pay instead of just receiving it due to her new place of employment.
OP: It sucks, but I'd just work out the 2 weeks. It would have been nice to have a paid "vacation" but it's not working out that way and you may want to return to your current bank one day. While your boss may no longer be there, others will and could remember how this was handled. Don't burn any bridges. Also, the pp's are correct. You are not in violation of the policy, your boss is. You did your due diligence and now it's up to the powers that be. If HR doesn't care enough to do anything about it I wouldn't think twice about it!
My reaction was to her language of "allowing me to just get paid for it" -- sounds/feels like entitlement to me.
I agree -- work the 2 weeks or until they walk you out. Be sure that everything is in writing. Was your original notice to your manager in writing? It does sound like she is not too fond of you, so I'd be sure that my notice was in writing as well as my follow-up to HR.
If they know you are leaving to go to a competitor (again in writing) and choose to let you work your remaining two weeks, so be it.
I also read this as the OP believes her manager isn't following company policy (ie paying out 2 weeks when employee is going to a competitor) because of their rocky relationship. Not as an entitlement issue. Although, I think most people would be bummed they have to work that 2 weeks when other people who have left the company don't.
How did you provide notice to your manager? Email or a letter? Has she sent you any emails that states she knows you're leaving? I would just try and have any packup necessary before you leave.
I really don't understand why your HR department doesn't seem to be recognizing you leaving. I'd send them a formal notice as well.
Sorry if my wording caused confusion, it was quite late when I wrote the post. To clarify, I'm fine with working the two weeks, otherwise I would have just notified them I was leaving. I knew when I gave notice there was the possibility I would be walked out, so I was mentally and financially prepared for that as well. As to why HR wouldn't recognize my letting them know I as leaving - that's something I really don't understand either.
My specific concern was that if I had been made aware of a policy against my continued employment to protect the bank and myself did I have any obligation to that policy if my manager chose to disregard it. After thinking about it for some time last night (and as some of you agreed) I concluded that the responsibility was hers, not mine. Because of the poor relationship I actually prefer to work out the two weeks so there can be no question regarding how I left. I've got copies of everything so if anything gets turned around later than can be no doubt she was made aware. So long as I've got my bases covered I'm good
BFP 11.8.12 * EDD 7.17.13 * MC 12.20.12
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over!
I would ask HR for the phone number for your corporate Ethics Hotline, because no one is giving you a straight answer. If you do not have an Ethics Hotline or an ombudsman-type, I would just keep documenting via email and read receipts that you are trying to find out if you are in violation of the policy or not. Ask for an update on a daily basis. Someone knows the answer to this, or is the decision-maker who can make the answer. Get it in writing if you're worried about retribution.
If you are going to a competitor, they may be able to offer you advice on how to word things or document your situation. If you feel comfortable about it, I would reach out to them-they're already committed to you and want you on good terms, I'm sure.
I would email HR and copy your boss. Say "this email is to confirm receipt of my official resignation, faxed to (HR manager) on X date and additionally provided to (boss) in hard-copy on X date. If you have not received this document please let me know at your earliest convenience, so I can be assured my employee file will reflect full abidance by company policies."
At this point, my only concern would be to ensure you can count on them for a reference that you're eligible for rehire - that your boss's strange reluctance to tell anyone you're leaving won't result in a note in your file that you gave less than 2 weeks and are thus ineligible for re-hire. This email will put something in writing that you've done all you're required to do.
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