UGH! House blocks funding for Planned Parenthood

EmDizzle · February 2011

Sorry for going political on you gals, but I'm so angry I could cry. I think it still has to get voted by the Senate, then Obama has a say, but still.

Just out of high school, I still wasn't comfortable talking to my mom, so I went to PP for years for my annual exams and eventually birth control. They supply this healthcare to ALL women of so many income levels, both the bold and the shy. This is often the ONLY option of any type of healthcare for so many women. (and facilities are just as sterile, doctors and nurses just as compassionate and intelligent as any private healthcare office).

While they do have the A option available, they do not take it lightly at all and do supply women educate women on other options. I'm just so PISSED that some people still see PP as an A warehouse. PP is an amazing option for so many women to receive healthcare when all other doors are closed!!!

Edit* When too many doors are closed, you get women going to psychotics that call themselves doctors - which is what happened in Philly.

pondering_gal · February 2011

I think what caused all this to go down was the video about the "underage sex workers."

I'll leave my opinions out if it though

jena.n.ross · February 2011

MrsHaueisen:
I feel you! There are 2 PPs in MA that does abortions. 2 out of 8! And when people hear PP they immediately think of abortions. I go to PP right now becuase I don't have health insurance and they do a sliding scale for me. If I tried to get a PAP at my previous GYNs office I would have to pay about 200-400 dollars. That is almost 2 weeks pay for me.
People need to see it's not all about the dirty A word. It's about sexual health for our citizens.

I've gone to PPs for over ten years. This is going to be an absolute tragedy for this country (especially this country's lower income women).

alecat9 · February 2011

pondering_gal:
I think what caused all this to go down was the video about the "underage sex workers."

I'll leave my opinions out if it though

I think I missed this...

pondering_gal · February 2011

alecat9:

pondering_gal:
I think what caused all this to go down was the video about the "underage sex workers."

I'll leave my opinions out if it though

I think I missed this...

I just looked on YouTube and here is a link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9Zj9yx2j0Y

I can't find a non-biased story on it (going either way), but if you type in "planned parenthood video" in Yahoo News there's a lot of stories on it.

chantico23 · February 2011

I guess I'm one of the few who thinks that the House made the right decision. For me it has nothing to do with abortions but rather about what types of things the government should be funding. At my core I am for small-government. I think that PP should be getting their funding from private contributions, fundraisers, etc. and not from the government. The government is not currently (nor do I think they should ever be, but that's another debate) in the healthcare business. I think there are other options to sustain PP and just because the government does not fund it does not automatically mean that women are going to go to unlicensed doctors in back alley ways.

I'm not super eloquent on the formation of my thoughts on this subject, but did feel the need to share a differing perspective.

pondering_gal · February 2011

erindworley:

I guess I'm one of the few who thinks that the House made the right decision. For me it has nothing to do with abortions but rather about what types of things the government should be funding. At my core I am for small-government. I think that PP should be getting their funding from private contributions, fundraisers, etc. and not from the government. The government is not currently (nor do I think they should ever be, but that's another debate) in the healthcare business. I think there are other options to sustain PP and just because the government does not fund it does not automatically mean that women are going to go to unlicensed doctors in back alley ways.

I'm not super eloquent on the formation of my thoughts on this subject, but did feel the need to share a differing perspective.

You wrote it much better than I could have...thank you

jena.n.ross · February 2011

erindworley:
I guess I'm one of the few who thinks that the House made the right decision. For me it has nothing to do with abortions but rather about what types of things the government should be funding. At my core I am for small-government. I think that PP should be getting their funding from private contributions, fundraisers, etc. and not from the government. The government is not currently (nor do I think they should ever be, but that's another debate) in the healthcare business. I think there are other options to sustain PP and just because the government does not fund it does not automatically mean that women are going to go to unlicensed doctors in back alley ways.
I'm not super eloquent on the formation of my thoughts on this subject, but did feel the need to share a differing perspective.

I want to preface this with: I hate debates, they make my head hurt, and it seems like someone's (usually mine) feelings get hurt. So this is in no way aggressive.

I think the government is going to pay for this one way or another. Personally, I don't have health insurance, and I can't afford to go to a "regular" doctor on a regular basis. I pay $21/month for my Nuva ring at the PP office, and less than $150 for my yearly exam. If they don't help fund PP, there will be more unwanted pregnancies. I would rather my tax dollars go into funding PP (and therefore cheap and reliable women's sexual healthcare, mammograms, education, etc) than into welfare to support the unwanted kids through to adulthood (and beyond).

chantico23 · February 2011

jena.n.ross:
I want to preface this with: I hate debates, they make my head hurt, and it seems like someone's (usually mine) feelings get hurt. So this is in no way aggressive.
I think the government is going to pay for this one way or another. Personally, I don't have health insurance, and I can't afford to go to a "regular" doctor on a regular basis. I pay $21/month for my Nuva ring at the PP office, and less than $150 for my yearly exam. If they don't help fund PP, there will be more unwanted pregnancies. I would rather my tax dollars go into funding PP (and therefore cheap and reliable women's sexual healthcare, mammograms, education, etc) than into welfare to support the unwanted kids through to adulthood (and beyond).

That assumes that PP will not be able to offer the same services at similar rates if the government does not fund them. However, if Planned Parenthood did what a lot of social care organizations do and raise funds privately, they could still offer the same services for as low or lower cost than they are currently.

And I don't want your feelings to get hurt. I like you too much. Hopefully this can be a friendly discussion amongst people with differing views, and as kind, smart women we can keep it from getting nasty.

jena.n.ross · February 2011

You've got an excellent point, about private funds. I guess it's that it's MY tax dollars (rather than a donation I don't have the money to give at this time), and I wish I could allot them as I wish (naive I know). I don't want to rely on benevolent strangers to provide those services, I just don't have the optimism.

EmDizzle · February 2011

I'm not a fan of intense debates either (and I just want to say I was in a fired up emotional state when I wrote the OP, so I hope it didn't come off too crazy), so it did make me smile to see a friendly discussion on the topic

Anyways, to the topic:

If government funding does actually get cut, PP will still be around. Something like 2/3rds of their funding is already private. But cutting the governments portion could potentially mean 1/3 of their funding and thus services could be cut. Whole clinics would have to shut down until more funding could be obtained, if even possible. At the high rate I have seen clinics visited myself (it's the one time I don't mind the waiting room being crazy full - it makes me so relieved that so many women are using this healthcare resource), this cut would pull this healthcare option for so many women

While I understand the stance on wanting a smaller government, I don't think think a government should stand completely on sidelines. If anything, PP is the one "handout" that is damn near impossible to abuse (who knows, maybe there is a black market for NuvaRings!). I know that these are trying times for our government (both federal and for many states), but there are other regions I think sacrifices could be made (whoa can of worms!) rather than this portion of women's healthcare assistance.

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