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  • It's the southern pride bit. ?They try to claim it's not offensive b/c they're just proud to be southern. ?Nope ,nothing wrong with the flag, it's just my heritage.

    Wink, nod.?

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  • I imagine it's a 'war of northern agression' situation.
  • I believe the idea is the whole "Southern Pride" or heritage aspect. Nonsense if you ask me.
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  • I think she needs a lesson on symbols.
  • There is also a history behind the swastika that does not involve the Holocaust, but if you chose to celebrate this history, you will be marginalized in society. 

    Her Logic = FAIL! 

  • I went to college with "War of Northern Aggression" types (they'll argue it was all about states rights and had nothing, nothing to do with slavery). ?And I also went to college with people who openly talked about how sad it was that they lost the battle of Franklin as though it were yesterday.?

    It was surreal. ? And it's why I haven't gone back since I graduated and probably will never go back. ?Those crazies are still close friends, but, damn, I can't be surrounded by it.

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  • imageLittleMissWifey:

    There is also a history behind the swastika that does not involve the Holocaust, but if you chose to celebrate this history, you will be marginalized in society. 

    Her Logic = FAIL! 

    I totally think we should take that one back.  I never understood why they got to keep it. 

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  • There's a huge difference between having pride about the South, versus having pride in what the Confederacy stood for. 

    The South = southern hospitality, slower way of life, and sweet tea. 
    The Confederacy = white people owning black people.

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  • My extremely southern friend visited Tokyo with me. ?She couldn't get over all the swastikas. ?She was appalled and couldn't get over it even after I explained to her the history. ?She thought they should stop using them given their more recent connotations.

    Now, she does not have a confederate flag. ?She's the debutante genteel type of southerner. ?But I know she's defended its use in state flags on the grounds of tradition.

    I couldn't get her to see the paralells.?

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    * Please note that the right the states were seeking was the right to own slaves.  Pesky details. 

    OMG, thank you!  It's not like they wanted to levy their own taxes or have their own schools; it was over wanting to OWN HUMAN BEINGS.

     

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    imagelyssbobiss:

    I saw a lady outside the hospital the other day, wearing a shirt with a confederate flag on it.? Underneath, it said, "If this offends you, you need a history lesson."

    My first reaction was, "no, YOU need a history lesson."? But maybe I missed school on the day where they explained that a confederate flag wasn't offensive.? Help?

    I'm guessing she's a subscriber to the "lost cause" theory of the civil war - i.e. it wasn't about slavery; it was about states' rights.*

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    * Please note that the right the states were seeking was the right to own slaves.? Pesky details.?

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    Ditto?

  • I thought they wanted to secede from the union for a number of reasons, cultural, and economic, not just b/c they wanted to have slaves.

    I still don't like it.

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