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WASHINGTON (WUSA) -- Homeless advocates in Washington, D.C. are livid about a new web site, www.shefights.net. The site sells videos of scantily-clad women assaulting homeless men. 

The web site's producers have allegedly paid homeless men between twenty-five and fifty dollars to allow the women to beat them up and to have it videotaped. 

The videos sell online for several hundred dollars apiece. 

Recently, the National Coalition for the Homeless, a DC-based organization, obtained a temporary restraining order barring the site's producers from approaching homeless people. 

Neil Donovan, executive director of the National Coalition for the Homeless, says he's hoping the restraining order is soon made permanent.

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  • That is sick and degrading.
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  • That is beyond ridiculous, and those people should be jailed! How sad is it to exploit someone's need for money in order to make so much more yourself!

    There really are no words. 

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  • That's horrible, no.
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  • Playing the devil's advocate here...

    How is this different from boxing, UFC, etc (minus the training aspect)? Surely they have the homeless people signing waivers & agreeing for this to happen. Fact is... They CAN say no. There are a lot of ways people get exploited to earn money & there are a lot of non-exploitive ways for these people to earn money. It's a choice.

    FWIW, I personally wouldn't do it because I'm not a violent person. The idea of beating someone up freaks me out. I might brake a nail, yo.

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  • imageClaireDunphy:

    Playing the devil's advocate here...

    How is this different from boxing, UFC, etc (minus the training aspect)? Surely they have the homeless people signing waivers & agreeing for this to happen. Fact is... They CAN say no. There are a lot of ways people get exploited to earn money & there are a lot of non-exploitive ways for these people to earn money. It's a choice.

    FWIW, I personally wouldn't do it because I'm not a violent person. The idea of beating someone up freaks me out. I might brake a nail, yo.

    To be completely honest, and I know most people wouldn't agree with me, I don't get boxing or UFC either. Why do people get off on watching someone else get their a$$ kicked? It just seems so sick to me.

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  • imageClaireDunphy:

    Playing the devil's advocate here...

    How is this different from boxing, UFC, etc (minus the training aspect)? Surely they have the homeless people signing waivers & agreeing for this to happen. Fact is... They CAN say no. There are a lot of ways people get exploited to earn money & there are a lot of non-exploitive ways for these people to earn money. It's a choice.

    FWIW, I personally wouldn't do it because I'm not a violent person. The idea of beating someone up freaks me out. I might brake a nail, yo.

    I'm with cakenbake on this one. It's taking advantage. It's different than boxing not only in the training sense, but that these trainers also protect their fighters. They have medical staff, and a trained referee who stops fights if necessary. Fighters receive quality treatment after being injured. I can't imagine that the homeless men being beaten receive this. Plus, they're not receiving long-term care to deal with their injuries. Oh, and even if they go to the hospital to receive care, they're getting it free on the taxpayer's dollar, so beyond just the moral issue here, you're talking about a fiscal issue.

    Not to mention that a large portion of homeless individuals suffer from mental illness and addiction. I'm sure they have people signing waivers, but are these individuals really in a position to sign a waiver?

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    imageClaireDunphy:

    Playing the devil's advocate here...

    How is this different from boxing, UFC, etc (minus the training aspect)? Surely they have the homeless people signing waivers & agreeing for this to happen. Fact is... They CAN say no. There are a lot of ways people get exploited to earn money & there are a lot of non-exploitive ways for these people to earn money. It's a choice.

    FWIW, I personally wouldn't do it because I'm not a violent person. The idea of beating someone up freaks me out. I might brake a nail, yo.

    To be completely honest, and I know most people wouldn't agree with me, I don't get boxing or UFC either. Why do people get off on watching someone else get their a$$ kicked? It just seems so sick to me.

    I agree with Tara. I can not watch any kind of UFC or boxing. I do not understand the thrill. I saw my best friend get beat up in high school and I have been scared ever since. I do not understand why anyone would want to cause physical harm or pain to another person.

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  • I can't take violence. Even just a small punch or something makes me ill. I don't understand the fighting stuff either, it's so bizarre to me. 

    I think there's a market for everything, and though I'm not surprised this stuff happens, I think it's sick and I judge the hell out of the people participating and watching it.  

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    Not to mention that a large portion of homeless individuals suffer from mental illness and addiction. I'm sure they have people signing waivers, but are these individuals really in a position to sign a waiver?

    That's a really valid point.  Do these people really know what they are signing?  And how do we know they aren't just really actors?  Realistically, it could all be staged.

    ETA: Apparently I am a fan of the word "really" this morning.

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    imageluckyinlove11902:

    Not to mention that a large portion of homeless individuals suffer from mental illness and addiction. I'm sure they have people signing waivers, but are these individuals really in a position to sign a waiver?

    That's a really valid point.  Do these people really know what they are signing?  And how do we know they aren't just really actors?  Realistically, it could all be staged.

    ETA: Apparently I am a fan of the word "really" this morning.

    Really?

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    You make a great point. The entire thing could be staged, but let's be honest: Homeless people are probably less expensive than actors.

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  • Good point about the mental illness and signing waivers. I wonder how long it will be before some lawyer decides to go after them on behalf of the homeless. I highly doubt it would hold up in court.
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  • imagecakenbake:
    Good point about the mental illness and signing waivers. I wonder how long it will be before some lawyer decides to go after them on behalf of the homeless. I highly doubt it would hold up in court.

    Some lawyer has probably already started the process.

    No, I wouldn't do it for money. Most of the homeless people that I have come into contact suffer from severe mental illness. It makes me sick.

    I won't go as far to say violence makes me ill, because I would shoot someone that made me feel like my life was in danger. Yes, I really am that mean.

  • I'mma call a sister's bluff and say whoever said yes is fulla crap, for one.

    And FWIW, I don't have a problem with structured violence.. I adored Friday Night Fight Nights in karate in college, though I don't have any interest in being *audience* to ppl I don't know fighting... nor am I saying bar brawls are awesome.

    Also, I think that there are plenty of nonviolent ways that people take advantage of another's need for money in order to make money themselves (bail bondsmen pop into mind immediately)... just as food for thought. For me it's not making money from the poor that is the problem (though I wouldn't build them a parade float either)... it's beating up a homeless person. Come on.

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    I'mma call a sister's bluff and say whoever said yes is fulla crap, for one.

    My money is on LB. She loves money. Stick out tongue

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    imagejenhappy:

    I'mma call a sister's bluff and say whoever said yes is fulla crap, for one.

    My money is on LB. She loves money. Stick out tongue

    And the yes did show up right around lunchtime. ;)

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    imagejenhappy:

    I'mma call a sister's bluff and say whoever said yes is fulla crap, for one.

    My money is on LB. She loves money. Stick out tongue

    And the yes did show up right around lunchtime. ;)

    Dun dun dun!

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  • imageClaireDunphy:
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    imageClaireDunphy:
    imagejenhappy:

    I'mma call a sister's bluff and say whoever said yes is fulla crap, for one.

    My money is on LB. She loves money. Stick out tongue

    And the yes did show up right around lunchtime. ;)

    Dun dun dun!

    I actually said no because I don't think I could "beat up" anyone or even pretend to and... who beats up homeless people?  WTF?

    Then I started thinking and I need to know more information to correctly vote.  I would consider it if the following things were in place:

    1.  I had experience fighting and it didn't make me uncomfortable to think about fighting.

    2.  I could see said homeless person beforehand and determine that they looked sound of mind. 

    3.  The price was right.  Would you really say no to throwing down for $1M?  $5M? 

    4.  The homeless guy/girl was getting paid too.

    All of those things?  Then maybe.

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