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No bin Laden talk?
Re: No bin Laden talk?
Tea Time for Lulu
I almost did last night but I didn't want to create what could be a political hot button.
I'll just say what I said on my FB status:
A big moment for the US. I'm grateful for the troops and work they've done to bring justice for the wrong done on our country. Now, we pray for continued protection on our soil and for the troops. This will likely add fuel to the opposition's fire...
I am also having mixed feelings about all this. I am happy that we had a successful mission, and that a horrible man can kill no more. However, I feel that Bin Laden probably didn't hold all the power of Al Quaida since he has been in hiding for so long. I also think that there must be plans on the opposition to retaliate against US citizens for his death either on foreign or US soil.
So, I guess today, I am thinking of all the lives lost to this man, and all that may be lost in the future becuase of our actions. I just pray that I am being overly cautious, and that things may look up for our troops in Afghanistan.
i agree with you!
i was only 45 mins from NY when it happened & know people who lost loved ones in the buildings & also in PA.
Personally, I don't understand how this is anything but a symbolic victory.
And a very, very bitter one ... how many Americans had to die while we spooled out a series of wars for a decade ostensibly to capture one person? Who is a movement's figurehead?
So yeah, I'm not dancing in the street.
I agree, and not just how many American troops but I'm thinking especially of all the innocent Afghani and Iraqi men, women and children. And the fact that I missed out on 5+ years of my dad's life throughout all the times he's been stationed in the ME supporting this effort. It's good to have a sense of closure, but I'm approaching this as a somber time to reflect on all that has happened in the last 10 years and not a time to celebrate in the streets.
so is he.
couldnt resist
Ba-dum chhh!
Here here.
Tea Time for Lulu
While I understand why people feel this way, I find comfort in knowing that all those lives weren't lost for nothing. What if we had never found Bin Laden? All the Americans and our allies who have sacrificed for years now have achieved one of their main objectives. That should be celebrated. The sacrifices people worldwide have suffered and will continue to suffer should be remembered. And I think a lot of people are thinking of and thanking of all the victims, soldiers, and the families around the world.
Personally, I've been in shock over him being found. I never thought it would actually happen. I think a lot of people are reacting without thinking about what they are saying or doing. It is their initial emotional response.
That is the wonderful thing about being an American. Those who want to celebrate can enjoy it. Those who don't, don't have to. Neither attitude diminishes the other's experience.
Well, I hope my response wouldn't lead anyone to believe I think otherwise.
"Figureheads" are actually very important to organizations. If you look back through history many a group/civilization/whatever has fallen because their figurehead has fallen. Bin Laden held enormous power and prestige. I think this is a crippling blow for sure. Do I think it's an end to anything? No. I also think somebody will come along eventually who will be able to whip people into a fervor just like he did and numerous other leaders before him. It is by no means an actual end to anything, but it definitely means something.
I feel the same way. I can't say I'm not glad that Osama is no longer a part of the world, but I also do not (personally) feel gleeful or celebratory over any part of the situation. It's just such an overwhelming amount of death and suffering on all sides. I do hope the victims of 9/11 feel some closure.
My own thoughts, which replicate many already expressed:
I cannot celebrate the death of a person, no matter how vile the person is. Can I feel relief? Justice? An odd feeling of hope that my daughter will never live in a world with Osama? Yes. But I cannot celebrate his death. Part of which is because his death doesn't bring back anyone... not the people that died in the trade towers, not the people that died in his other international attacks, not the people that died trying to find him, and not the many Iraqi and Afghani people that have died in the pursuit.
Can I celebrate that this looks great for Obama and he may have trumped the Trump (ha ha ha sucka) and his reelection is looking much better? YES. And I did.
Aw, no worries. This isn't controversy. This is life!