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Discouraged

DH and I found a house that we really love and wanted to put an offer on. We started to get really excited, picking out new carpets and paint colors - all under the assumption that we would be putting in an offer today. Last night, FIL (who is also our realtor), told us that he thinks we can't afford it monthly because of the debt we still have. Since moving home, we have paid off over 7k in debt and both of us have higher paying jobs.

If we start looking at houses under this price point, we are going to be looking at soley fixer uppers. This house needed the carpets to be torn out and new paint, everything else was worth the money. I feel like we are never going to find a house, and never going to leave his parents' place.
Dave and Kathleen - 09.12.09:

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  • Riss91Riss91 member
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    Have you made up a monthly budget and seen for yourselves whether or not you can afford it. If not, you really should do that. I wouldn't solely rely on someone else's opinion without proving it out for myself first.

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  • Do you have a working budget?  Have you reviewed your debt-to-income ratio?  Have you been pre-approved for a loan at all?  These are all things you should consider before counting yourself out.  It might be discouraging, but at least it will help you figure out what you can afford rather than living outside your means and setting yourself up for failure in the longrun.  Not trying to ruin your plans, just being realistic -- I see these situations every day and nothing sucks more than a foreclosure.

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  • We were already preapproved for a loan for much more than this house is selling for (hate ending a sentence in a preposition....grr). We have a spreadsheet that has all of our payments on it and how high the utilization is on each card. We know exactly where we stand. I know that things will be tight until we pay off at least one more card. FILs concern is that if the plumbing fails, etc, we wouldn't have the income to fix it.
    Dave and Kathleen - 09.12.09:

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  • imageKat&Dave091909:
    We were already preapproved for a loan for much more than this house is selling for (hate ending a sentence in a preposition....grr). We have a spreadsheet that has all of our payments on it and how high the utilization is on each card. We know exactly where we stand. I know that things will be tight until we pay off at least one more card. FILs concern is that if the plumbing fails, etc, we wouldn't have the income to fix it.

    Those are concerns for any homeowner, though... I don't think it's fair of him to count you out.  I think he's working more as a FIL than your realtor here.

    Not to pry, but how about savings?  Are you able to put anyway away in your monthly budget?

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  • Riss91Riss91 member
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    imageKat&Dave091909:
    We were already preapproved for a loan for much more than this house is selling for (hate ending a sentence in a preposition....grr). We have a spreadsheet that has all of our payments on it and how high the utilization is on each card. We know exactly where we stand. I know that things will be tight until we pay off at least one more card. FILs concern is that if the plumbing fails, etc, we wouldn't have the income to fix it.

    I definitely wouldn't put much weight on the amount you were pre-approved for by the bank. When we were house hunting and we did our budget, we calculated what we could afford. The banks approved us for more than double that amount!

    Your FIL is right that you have to be sure that you will have enough to cover incidentals and unexpected repairs. Do you have an emergency savings account? Maybe you just need to wait a little longer until you can save a bit more.

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  • What the bank pre-approves you for, honestly, doesn't mean diddly squat. Banks are notorious for approving for way over the value a couple can really afford. That's a big part of the reason this country is in such a financial mess. I know it can be really disappointing when you get your hopes up about a house and it falls through. We went through the same thing, and I was in tears over a house I'd only seen twice. I know that sucks. I wouldn't listen 100% to your FIL either, though. If your savings is good and you are able to add to it each month, you may be able to work it out. You and your DH just have to look at your budget really closely. We're very good about budgeting and have ample savings, but in the last few months we've had one unexpected cost after the next (medical bills, new car tires, huge tax payment, more medical bills, etc). You just have to make sure you're savings for those things every month or that you have enough padding in your savings to handle it, if things happen. Do you have an emergency fund yet? Or is all of your money going toward debt?
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    I agree with the others -- what you got pre-approved for has no bearing on what you can actually afford. Keep in mind that your monthly cost will be determined by the interest rate on your loan, and may also include your property taxes, PMI (if you're not doing a down payment), homeowner's insurance, etc. Things may be more expensive than you think they will be, and the last thing you want to do is buy a house and have no money to furnish it or end up living outside your means. 

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  • I think pp have all given you great advice.  I would just reiterate that while you do have to be cautious, and can do that in concrete ways like making a budget, contributing to an emergency fund, etc, in no way should FIL's opinion make or break this for you.  That is nice that he cares, but if you guys review all the "evidence" and still feel confident going forward, then you should.  I'm sure he is just worried about you, and after seeing all these foreclosures happening you should not take this responsibility lightly, but it is your and your husband's call to make.  Good luck!
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  • another thing to consider is whether you have it in your savings to cover not only a downpayment but also all of the closing costs (legal fees, realtor fees, money for escrow, taxes, etc.). some people just say "oh the house is $x and we're putting $y down" and think thats all they will need to pay out of pocket to buy a house, and truthfully thats not the case at all.
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