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ridiculous and they are crazy cakes.
someone on the WM board suggested they hoping to cash in on this - reality show/book deal, etc.
"What we noticed is that parents make so many choices for their children. It's obnoxious," adds Stocker, a teacher at an alternative school.
Obnoxious? Really? How dare the parents make so many choices for their young children. What are they thinking? (sentences in italics are meant to be sarcastic) WTH?
What really kills me about the article is that there is a major factual error in the headline- they are keeping the child's SEX not gender under wraps. They don't know their baby's gender. Gender = identity/societal norms while sex is physical/biological.
This is a tremendous pet peeve of mine as it's a huge difference. I want to punch people in the face when they make this mistake because it happens ALL.THE.DAMN.TIME and putting it the headline of an article only helps continue this error.
http://www.who.int/gender/whatisgender/en/
My rant aside, I think these people are somewhat ridiculous- and stupid- I guess they will never let anyone else change Storm's diaper.
I read that before i saw your post on it. My first thought after reading that. Was man that kid is really going to be F ed up. I feel sorry for the children in that house hold that are paying for the parents lack of being parents.
I would even say it borders on Child Abuse to me it is mental abuse.
I'd totally support these parents in letting their little boys wear pink and have long hair if that's what they want.
I support them in doing their damndest to avoid overly restrictive gender norms.
I support them in their kreative gender-neutral names though I may roll my eyes as I please. (Storm? Jazz? Are they super heros?)
But this? this is DUMB. Somebody said this over on PCE and I think it hits the nail on the head for me - but by keeping this kid's sex a secret they are making that the most important thing about them. This is the kid with the secret sex! OMG!
With all the hulabaloo that's requried to keep the secret (5 year old siblings are not good at secret keeping without serious coaching!) It's not some empowering things for the kid, it's a freakin' lame ass ego-fueled experiment on the part of the parents. I wouldn't even come close to calling it abuse, but it is just stupid and counterproductive.
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I agree with Carolyn about the sex vs. gender issue and it's particularly important to distinguish between the two in this case!!
My opinion is that hiding the child's sex is ridiculous and will likely cause far more harm than good. The parents' attempts to ignore stereotypes are admirable in a way, but they're taking it to an extreme.
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I am still all ragey about the gender/sex thing- but I think I can finally give some commentary on the parents' silliness- it's weird, and it sounds like they make some exceptionally unorthodox choices for their children that may make their lives more challenging in some regards- but I don't think that these kids are going to grow up to be anymore screwed up than the little girl who's mom gave her botox, or all of those other crazy pageant people. I think it's a little sad that they are using their baby to make a point.
This article makes me stabby. Those parents are so self-righteous and sanctimonious. If you want to give your kids all choices, why even give it a name? You don't want it to be labeled as a boy or a girl but you're ok making it be labeled as Storm? Stupid and hypocritical.
And they don't really teach their children yet the dad is a teacher at an "alternative school". These kids are going to be confused, ostracized and uneducated. Let a boy wear dresses, let a girl play with army men, who flipping cares? But to deny information about the kid's sex is just using the kid as a pawn in their soapboxing.
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I don't really care if the boys wear dresses or have long hair, but the article says something like the older boy gets upset when (he dresses/looks like that) and people think he's a girl. Should the parents tell the kid that dresses are traditionally worn by girls, and it is ok for him to wear them, but people may think he's a girl?
Yeah, I think the parents are being a bit AW about the whole thing...