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So...where does the GOP go from here?
Any thoughts?
I think it would be awesome if the GOP just dropped all wedge issues (abortion, gay marriage, etc.) and embraced a more moderate agenda. If this happens, I see a great GOP resurgence, maybe even in four years.
I have a feeling though that they will side with the Palin faction. Which is good for me as a Democrat, but not good for the country as a whole.
Your thoughts?
Re: So...where does the GOP go from here?
I could write a book, but here is a short wish list:
1. No more religion involved in politics. It's too divisive.
2. Give up the ghost on abortion. Pro-choice has won and if it ever happens to lose, pro-choicers (including me) would rise up and push the far-right GOPers so far out of power that they'd be lucky to come back. Ever.
3. Fiscal conservatism. PLEASE. I'm begging.
4. Stop the red state/blue state, I'm a patriot/You are not bullshit. It is not constructive on any level.
5. Pretend as though we never heard of Karl Rove.
I could go on...
I'm very interested to see where they go. I think it would be great if they would go the direction IIOY just described, but for some reason, I have a nagging gut feeling they'll keep in the direction they're going, but farther. I have absolutely no actual reasons for thinking that.
I felt like I was watching the Republican party implode last night. It was the oddest feeling.
I have to Ditto this. Take some notes from Obama's campaign and see if you can inspire and unite people rather than using Rovian and Fearmongoring (sp? word?) politics. I think two moderate parties would be much more useful to the country and I think if the GOP keeps on the current path it will bring rise to the Libertarian party and keep the Democrats in power.
Did any ofyou watch Fox's coverage last night? They all looked like someone died! (Ok, Brit Hume always looks like that....)
If the GOP is smart, they head back to the center and "real conservatism." Unfortunately for the, i'm afraid that they've already pushed the partisan envelope too far. Just like some MPC supporters were whipped up into an uncontrollable frenzy, that faction of the GOP still exists.
Anything you can achieve through hard work, you could also just buy.
It's so interesting. When the Dems got their asses handed to them in 2002 and 2004, there was all the freaking out about what they should do, how to appeal to the midwest, etc. And there was a lot of cries about how they needed to compromise on abortion (damn partial birth abortion ban) and things like that.
So, I suspect there will be a bit of floundering around for a while until they can find a republican Obama - Someone to package the issues as appealing as Obama did, and they'll come back as exactly the same party.
Interesting, but I wonder how they can be inspirational with an anti-choice, anti-gay agenda.
"Yes we can ban gay marriage America. Yes we can."
I hope not exactly the same. I'm not sure why we became the party of anti-sex. I don't see us losing a pro-life agenda completely. But hopefully we'll move away from abstinence only education and really work on reducing abortions on all fronts.
I don't expect us to become pro-gay marriage, but hopefully we can move away from promoting any anti-gay legislation. Sadly, I'm not sure we'll go that direction considering the apparent popularity of anti-gay legislation. Ugh.
I think in terms of a shift, instead of a shift on stances, it will be a shift on priorities. National defense will probably remain a priority, but fiscal conservatism will hopefully also come to the forefront. I think the Joe the Plumber phenomenom will inspire this. I'm hoping Bobby Jindal might be our Obama in 8 years. ...and hopefully we'll see some new rising stars start to take over the House in 2 years.
With the success of all the anti-gay marriage amendments, I have a feeling that they're keep pushing on that front, possibly leaving some of the crazy anti-choice stuff behind. ?Then again, that they've tried so many times for parental notification in CA and an outright ban in SD shows me that they're not willing to change course just because of what's been voted on in the past.
I see an immediate backlash against women since it's so easy to blame Palin (and by extension, women) for McCain's failure. ?But I don't think that will last.
I wish religion would ease out of politics, but if anything, I think Obama has made it more central. ?Partly b/c of him needing to defend himself, but also b/c he is overtly religious and supports things like more money to faith based programs.?
Thanks for the interesting thread, ladies. And I have to say I'm another one that hopes the GOP follows some of the steps IIOY outlined.
I think both parties learned last night that dividing and polarizing people isn't a good thing. Telling half the country they aren't real Americans doesn't work. And pandering to one faction of your party (in this case the religious right) alienates far more people than it helps.
I just don't think the extreme right--or extreme left for that matter--is where most Americans fall on the spectrum. And neither party should be clinging to their fringe..