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guns
I want to know your opinions about guns. This has always been a huge issue between Matt and I--we have seriously different opinions and values when it comes to guns. However, we've learned to respect each other's opinions, and I even try to support Matt in his hobby (like I got him some safety shooting glasses for his birthday, etc). Matt loves any and all guns but is also sort of secretive and ashamed of his "hobby" because of the stigma attached to guns. Especially handguns, and especially here in Canada. I respect this hobby of his, but I made it clear to him that I don't want any guns in the house. I grew up with rifles and shotguns in the house, but I also grew up on a farm. They were also hidden away in my parents' closet and my dad only brought them out a handful of times when I was a kid (otherwise I wouldn't have known they were there) and taught me to shoot.
How do you feel about guns? Would you allow them in your house (or do you have a specific aversion to hand guns / long-guns / automatic weapons)?
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We don't own guns. DH misses every time he tries to kill a bug with his shoe, so I would never let him own a gun- LOL! However, I have no problem with other people owning them as long as its done safely/legally. I do judge people that have young kids and don't lock up their guns, but otherwise it doesn't bother me what other people own. I used to work in an office that was in a sketchy neighborhood. On nights where we worked late I know that multiple employees including my boss had guns on them (I kid you not), so I guess you never know who's packing heat!!
Does Canada have the same gun laws as the US?
I'll wait until Matt gets home to answer this, because I'm not really sure. I'm unsure about the laws here in Canada, and I'm unsure about the laws in the US. though, in the US, aren't the laws state-by-state?) I think they're federal here in Canada. Either way, I'm pretty sure we have strict regulations on hand guns, and even stricter on automatic weapons. I'm not sure about any of it, though. There are a lot of long-guns in this country, though, because so much of our population lives in rural areas.
Matt--before he was even a permanent resident here--was able to get his licenses to use restricted and non-restricted firearms here in Canada after taking some tests and whatnot.
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This is the only gun that we own, but I am planning to get H his own handgun soon. In the states the laws are state by state. In Iowa you can carry a gun and own a gun without a permit, they just changed the law on January 1st to allow for concealed carry. When you get your concealed carry permit you are also permitted to carry in some other states, but I don't know which ones off the top of my head. In Illinois you have to have a FOID card (Firearm owner ID) to carry or buy any gun and you cannot concealed carry.
H and I have both taken our safety course and just need to turn in our paperwork for the concealed carry permit. I have no issue with gun as long as they are kept properly and safely in the home. I agree with Erin, I don't think the gun is the issue it is the person behind the trigger.
This sums up completely how I feel about it.
Matti is home now, and gave me lots of info on Canadian gun laws versus what he's used to in PA. Some of the laws in Canada that aren't in PA include:
Automatic weapons and some other firearms such as AK47s are prohibited in Canada unless they are grandfathered. So there are no sales of these weapons. If your kids don't want your automatic weapon when you die, the gun will be destroyed. There are many long-guns that are restricted in the US that are not restricted here in Canada. There is still debate about which long guns should be restricted weapons, but there is no such debate about handguns. All handguns are restricted in Canada.
You cannot conceal carry or open carry any handguns in Canada. When transporting them, they must be in a locked box. You also must apply for an "Authorization to Transport" too transport your handgun (one application per gun), and indicate each location you intend on taking the gun.
Hollow-point bullets are prohibited--possibly even for police.
High-capacity magazines are prohibited. for handguns, this is for magazines over 10 rounds. for long-guns this is for magazines over 5 rounds.
There is a gun registry called the Canadian Firearms Registry. You must register all guns you own with the Chief Firearms Officer. this is a hot topic right now, and has been for a few years. Some want it scrapped. Others think maintaining the registry is important for police.
We need a license to possess and acquire firearms.
When Matt applied for his license, I had to sign the application stating that I thought he was a responsible person. Here's what the gov't website says about it. Citizens/PRs "applying for a firearms license are required to have their present and past spouse or common-law partner sign the application. Refusal of the spouse, for any reason, to sign the application will trigger further investigation by law enforcement officers. In addition, the Canadian government has set up a "spousal notification" toll-free information line through which spouses can report crimes or express concerns about a person's qualifications to posses firearms."
I hope that was enough info, cause now hubby is on a tangent about Canadian laws. hahahaha. I think I'll stop asking him questions and watch a movie with him.
I come from a long line of firearm owners and enthusiasts, as did Zach, so we both know how and enjoy shooting. I don't currently own a handgun, but it's in the plans to have a few around the house, and to teach any future children to handle the gun properly. I'm proud to say I'm an NRA member.
Indiana is another state in which you can conceal carry, as long as you've got the permit to do so. No need to have a permit to purchase or own, just concealed carry.
I grew up in a family of gun owners/hunters. My brothers both got guns on their 13th birthdays, I got a TV because I was not interested in hunting at all. I have shot a gun on several occasions when I was a kid, and did not really find it enjoyable (I do however enjoy archery, but not to hunt, just target practice). Everyone in my family that owns a gun has taken proper training courses (3 of them were even in the military). My parents always kept all the guns in the house locked up and the bullets locked separately. However, as kids we were taught to always treat a gun as if it was loaded and ready to fire.
DH enjoys shooting (he was a Marine reservist), but does not like to hunt. Not sure if we will ever own our own guns, perhaps we will inherit some of my family's which includes a gun my grandpa brought back from WWII. Whether or not we have any guns in the house, I think it is important to teach kids about gun safety. After all you never know if their friends' parents have guns, and how well the store them.
I think guns should be tightly regulated (and locked up when not in use). I think anybody who wants to own a gun for legitimate reasons should be willing to jump through the hoops necessary to own one (e.g. waiting periods and gun safety courses). Yes it's a pain, but if it keeps guns out of the wrong hands, then I think it's worth it (yes I realize that most people using them in crimes probably bought the guns illegally anyways, but that's not always the case). I'm on the fence about concealed weapons, there are occasional circumstances where I could see them being useful, but in general I think it's a bad idea.
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this exactly.
Yeah, what you said! Thank you for clarifying so well.
DH is a reservist in the Army and loves guns. He's also very careful and responsible with them. That being said, I hate them and don't want any in or near my house.
This may seem a bit extreme, but I think law protection personnel and soldiers should be the only people allowed to have guns.
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TTC Since January 2011 - We have bad spermI agree, actually. I hate them, and I wouldn't allow one in my house.
The only guns we have in my house are paintball guns. DH will go to a shooting range once in a great while, but he doesn't own a gun. There are really strict gun laws in MA too, which I've never looked too much into.
I don't have much against a responsible owner having a gun, but it's not for me.
I personally believe gun useage and gun safety should be taught to every child, at a very young age. Even if you don't own a gun (or even if you're anti-gun) you should still learn to use one safely, and so should your children. Just because you don't own one, doesn't mean that your child will never come into contact with one.
I'd personally rather myself or my child know how to responsibly respect a gun, if the need ever arises, than to not know, and it be a big "Interesting!" secret that could turn into a very bad situation very quickly.
We own guns. We own a lot of guns. It is a hobby of Keith's and is also a hobby of my dad's. So I learned to shoot at a young age. I've never shot a rifle, simply because I have short arms and can't hold any of the ones they have comfortably.
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I have a question about the reserves and the firearms your DH has. Where does he keep them if not in the house? Matt wants to join the reserves in a few years (after citizenship obviously), but I hate the idea of him keeping his guns in the house. We've talked about the possibility of having some locked shed with a safe or something, but I still don't really like that. Matt wants to be a cop as well, and--correct me if I'm wrong--they just keep their guns at the station, right? I watch too much law and order, but always notice they change out of their civilian clothes and into their cop uniform and put on their holster when they're at the station. I just want to avoid having them in or near my house.
I don't know about cops, but any of the guns that Chris works with belong to the Canadian Forces and therefore stay on the base (or wherever he's using them). He'd like to have his own someday, but he hasn't begun that "discussion" with me yet.
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TTC Since January 2011 - We have bad spermThe base's eh? Excellent. You, Ma'am, have just added fuel the fire of my debate with him.