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I have such a good FFFC, it deserves its own post.
Have you all heard about the guy whose girlfriend aborted their baby and he put up a billboard about it?
http://abcnews.go.com/US/abortion-billboard-lands-mexico-man-court-girlfriend/story?id=13783668
Now, the woman claims she had a miscarriage and I am not sure that I believe that but for this post's sake, lets say she really did have an abortion.
I don't think there is anything wrong with the billboard. For one thing, as women, we are constantly screaming about OUR rights and men? Don't have rights. If we get KTFU and want to have the baby and they don't want to have a baby? They are on the hook for 18 years worth of child support. If we get KTFU and decide to have an abortion and the man doesn't want an abortion? We can, legally, have an abortion and he has no say. In either situation, the man is the @sshole, of course.
Two people chose to have sex but only ONE person gets to make the choice afterward. I don't think that is right.
Based on what I have seen on other boards ^^^ this is the exact opposite of how most women on the nest feel. So....flame away.
((By the way, do I think the billboard was the best way for that man to communicate his feelings? Hells to the no. Is it legal? Given that we have free speech in this country, yes.))
Re: I have such a good FFFC, it deserves its own post.
I don't think a man should be able to force a woman to have the baby, honestly, because only the woman accepts the health/physical risks and consequences that come with bearing a child.
I do, however, believe that a man should be able to opt out of any rights and responsibilities if he doesn't want to have a baby and the woman does. This applies to either parent being able to opt out if they agree to have the child for the other parent.
So basically, I think both potential parents should have the legal right to choose.
I very much agree. Well said.
I actually struggle with this concept. I wrote a paper about men's views of what opinion they should have (and what actually happens), and one of the things reviewers have asked me to do is self-disclose my own views. The problem is, there's no academic way to say, "Well, the non-sucky guys like my DH or brother should get some opinion, but not be able to force a decision, but the sucky guys shouldn't have any opinion, but guys in between...."
It's just so situation dependent.
Quite a few reseachers have called for the possibility of a "financial abortion" which I'm ok with. So, women would have the final say over giving birth or not but men who didn't want her to would be able to sign away his legal rights AND responsibilities. I'm not sure what would happen if he wanted the baby and she didn't, though, and I'm just not comfortable with the concept of being forced to give birth.
This is what I was getting at if it wasn't clear.
It was---I just hadn't read your response before I started posting. Once I read it, I realized that I could have just said, "What Wendy said!" because I think we're 100% on the same page there.
It was---I just hadn't read your response before I started posting. Once I read it, I realized that I could have just said, "What Wendy said!" because I think we're 100% on the same page there.
Ha! I wasn't calling you a copycat, just more of a 'yeah, that!'
Is it time to go home yet?
No worries---I knew you weren't. I was just being a lazy ass.
I think (and have always thought) that as long as abortion is legal, then a man should have the choice to "opt out" of the pregnancy if the woman decides to keep the baby and the father isn't into it because the woman has an opportunity to "opt out."
I also agree a man can't force a woman to carry a baby she doesn't want to have.
I am actually incredibly surprised that we all pretty much agree on this.
Huh.