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Re: Discuss: New cigarette labels
Those are awesome!
These last weeks at Disneyland, Sea World, Zoo, have made me sad...seeing the smokers (some of them kids, some of them with kids)
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I'm for the new packaging and applaud the effort, but am realistic about how effective they might be. I also had the same thought that this will probably start a whole new market for alternative cigarette holders.
I wonder how they're going to measure the effectiveness of the program?
I totally agree with all of this.
DH and I were discussing the packages last night and he said he can't see someone stopping over it and that they will become like collector cards. I don't necessarily agree with them becoming collector cards but I don't really see them stopping current smokers.
Smoking is terrible for you and it is a deadly habit/addiction that claims lots of amazing people every year.
That said....I'm trying to visualize how it would go over if the government tried to put labels/warnings as graphic as these on other products...or if it infringes on the company's rights.
And yah, I think there will either be trading cards soon or the cigarette case is going to be very "in" again.
absolutely fing FANTASTIC !!!
Biggest waste of taxpayer money of all time.
Well, maybe not, but I think it's expensive and ineffective.
Why not spend the same amount of money on making the resources and incentives to QUIT smoking better?
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This.
Thailand has similar packaging for cigarettes, but FAR more graphic. And it hasn't seemed to help much over there.
Add that to how desensitized our society has become to gore (through TV, video games, movies, media), and I think many people will either be able to easily ignore it or at least not be that bothered by it. Some may even think it's "cool". Especially kids exposed to a lot of violent video games who seem to have no concept of the reality of death, disease, war, injuries, etc.
LOL!!
you're probably right though..
I'm curious what research shows in the other countries as to the effectiveness of the package change. This article said it makes a difference: http://news.discovery.com/human/cigarette-warning-labels-effective-110622.html but it seems like the statistics quoted are whether the smoker thought more about the health risks or whether it made them more likely to quit. Which is not the same thing as actually quitting or even trying to quit. So who knows if it is actually effective in reducing the number of smokers.
I think the one positive that makes a difference is that it is another step in shifting the public opinion toward thinking smoking is undesirable. It may not change the people already addicted but if smoking continues to get the side-eye, eventually new smokers are going to dwindle.
And, actually, I am kinda surprised this is considered constitutional. Not that I'm not all for getting people to stop smoking, but it's just somewhat surprising to me. Because it really is like the government telling consumers not to buy the product. However, I liked this quote from my link...
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The tobacco companies are footing the bill. And it does seem to be a response to a stall in the decline of the smoking rate, meaning probably that more young people are taking up smoking, so I think that's who the administration is targeting? Trying to get young people not to start smoking.
Anyway, I'm surprised it's constitutional too. You know, that lil' First Amendment thing. I wonder if we'll see this end up in court.
The tobacco companies are footing the bill. And it does seem to be a response to a stall in the decline of the smoking rate, meaning probably that more young people are taking up smoking, so I think that's who the administration is targeting? Trying to get young people not to start smoking.
Anyway, I'm surprised it's constitutional too. You know, that lil' First Amendment thing. I wonder if we'll see this end up in court.
I'm also getting cranky in my old age. I used to think that other people's personal choices didn't affect me, but... once you hit 65, the majority of us are on Medicare. That means our tax dollars are already paying for Joe Schmoe's lung cancer, caused by cigarettes because he chose to smoke. And with health care costs spiraling out of control and a big deficit, yeah, other people's choices do affect us personally.