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Lateral move, but how to ask for a promotion?

A brand new project position opened in a (quickly growing) department, and the VP of the area specifically asked me to apply for this position.

I am hesitant to go as I'm quite happy in my current role and report to a great director and VP who believe in me and my abilities and my ability to move up within the company.

I am interviewing for the position in the new area next week. I am thinking I would like to ask for a 10% promotion. Since the position is considered the "same level", it's considered a lateral move. However, I've been doing a solid job in my current dept and I feel I should get compensated for the skillsets I'm bringing.

1. How do I ask it?

2. When do I ask it?

I am just nervous, and would love some feedback,

Re: Lateral move, but how to ask for a promotion?

  • TeamCTeamC member

    You should be talking with the VP that knows you specifically.  Presumably he/she knows your performance, wants you, and will be easy to relate to.  That said, most people don't give promotions for taking a lateral, typically, you'd need to prove yourself in the new capacity first.  But if it's a lateral there shouldn't be any proving because you're already performing to that level, so why do you deserve more money for just meeting that capacity?  Unless you there are financial or promotion expectations in your current job that you're worried you won't get by taking the new job, I probably wouldn't be inclined to ask for for the salary increase.

    If you're on the cusp of exceeding your competencies for the level you're at/interviewing for, I might consider during the interview with the VP what targets you would be expected to hit in your first 6 months and whether a 6 month evaluation would be appropriate to consider an increase in salary.  Good luck!

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    You should be talking with the VP that knows you specifically.  Presumably he/she knows your performance, wants you, and will be easy to relate to.  That said, most people don't give promotions for taking a lateral, typically, you'd need to prove yourself in the new capacity first.  But if it's a lateral there shouldn't be any proving because you're already performing to that level, so why do you deserve more money for just meeting that capacity?  Unless you there are financial or promotion expectations in your current job that you're worried you won't get by taking the new job, I probably wouldn't be inclined to ask for for the salary increase.

    If you're on the cusp of exceeding your competencies for the level you're at/interviewing for, I might consider during the interview with the VP what targets you would be expected to hit in your first 6 months and whether a 6 month evaluation would be appropriate to consider an increase in salary.  Good luck!

    I could ask the VP. My ibggest worry is that I will ask for it, and then I wonder if he'll be taken aback from it (since it is a lateral move afterall), and then it could backfire on me... or even worse, put a bad taste in his mouth? I also feel I am leaving a department that knows me and my capabilities well, as well as bringing my skillsets to a new area, which should be compensated.

  • Have you checked you companies pay policies?  Where I work a lateral move does not receive any pay increase.  It is lateral because the jobs are graded the same due to similar skills, knowledge and requirements.  Why would the company pay you more for a job they consider the same?  Not all companies are the same but you should check for any written policies and be prepared to plead you case.  The result will vary depending on the company.
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    imageTeamC:

    You should be talking with the VP that knows you specifically.  Presumably he/she knows your performance, wants you, and will be easy to relate to.  That said, most people don't give promotions for taking a lateral, typically, you'd need to prove yourself in the new capacity first.  But if it's a lateral there shouldn't be any proving because you're already performing to that level, so why do you deserve more money for just meeting that capacity?  Unless you there are financial or promotion expectations in your current job that you're worried you won't get by taking the new job, I probably wouldn't be inclined to ask for for the salary increase.

    If you're on the cusp of exceeding your competencies for the level you're at/interviewing for, I might consider during the interview with the VP what targets you would be expected to hit in your first 6 months and whether a 6 month evaluation would be appropriate to consider an increase in salary.  Good luck!

    I could ask the VP. My ibggest worry is that I will ask for it, and then I wonder if he'll be taken aback from it (since it is a lateral move afterall), and then it could backfire on me... or even worse, put a bad taste in his mouth? I also feel I am leaving a department that knows me and my capabilities well, as well as bringing my skillsets to a new area, which should be compensated.

    If they are specifically recommending you for this role I would certainly ask for something, not necessarily a promotion but at least a raise within your pay grade. Don't do it during the interview unless the interviewer brings it up, that never makes you look good. I would ask the person recommending you (a VP you said?) if the position comes with the possibility of increased compensation, then wait and see what they offer you. If you want more, there's no reason you shouldn't counter. You aren't transferring as some kind of favor to the company.

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  • imageArcadianDreams:
    imageclevebride2006:
    imageTeamC:

    You should be talking with the VP that knows you specifically.  Presumably he/she knows your performance, wants you, and will be easy to relate to.  That said, most people don't give promotions for taking a lateral, typically, you'd need to prove yourself in the new capacity first.  But if it's a lateral there shouldn't be any proving because you're already performing to that level, so why do you deserve more money for just meeting that capacity?  Unless you there are financial or promotion expectations in your current job that you're worried you won't get by taking the new job, I probably wouldn't be inclined to ask for for the salary increase.

    If you're on the cusp of exceeding your competencies for the level you're at/interviewing for, I might consider during the interview with the VP what targets you would be expected to hit in your first 6 months and whether a 6 month evaluation would be appropriate to consider an increase in salary.  Good luck!

    I could ask the VP. My ibggest worry is that I will ask for it, and then I wonder if he'll be taken aback from it (since it is a lateral move afterall), and then it could backfire on me... or even worse, put a bad taste in his mouth? I also feel I am leaving a department that knows me and my capabilities well, as well as bringing my skillsets to a new area, which should be compensated.

    If they are specifically recommending you for this role I would certainly ask for something, not necessarily a promotion but at least a raise within your pay grade. Don't do it during the interview unless the interviewer brings it up, that never makes you look good. I would ask the person recommending you (a VP you said?) if the position comes with the possibility of increased compensation, then wait and see what they offer you. If you want more, there's no reason you shouldn't counter. You aren't transferring as some kind of favor to the company.

    This is kind of what I was thinking. I won't be interviewing with the VP but the Director (my direct supervisor) instead. Thus, I really don't know how and when to ask for it.

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