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Restaurant bans kids under 6... what do you think about it?

http://shine.yahoo.com/channel/parenting/restaurant-bans-kids-under-6-discrimination-or-smart-move-2509487/

 

For me personally, and as a mother of a 4 year old... I say good for them.  This is more about the parents though than the kids.  For us, I try to teach my child how to behave properly in a public place, and if she doesn't, we remove ourselves from the situation so we don't affect other people.  And if people have a huge issue with it, don't go!

To add, on a date night... I'd probably go somewhere like this.  Just to make sure there's no kids around.  :)

Re: Restaurant bans kids under 6... what do you think about it?

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    http://shine.yahoo.com/channel/parenting/restaurant-bans-kids-under-6-discrimination-or-smart-move-2509487/

     

    For me personally, and as a mother of a 4 year old... I say good for them.  This is more about the parents though than the kids.  For us, I try to teach my child how to behave properly in a public place, and if she doesn't, we remove ourselves from the situation so we don't affect other people.  And if people have a huge issue with it, don't go!

    To add, on a date night... I'd probably go somewhere like this.  Just to make sure there's no kids around.  :)

    Brianna,

    This is how my parents did it with us if we got noisy and I'm glad that there are some that still do it.  However, after many experiences over the years, it is not the norm.  I would probably frequent that restaurant a little more if they were down here.  I don't understand why there are parents out there who feel that it is appropriate for their child to go everywhere.  

    Several years ago, I was at a restaurant with some teacher friends and I watched a mom let her child throw every bit of his food on the floor throughout the duration of the meal.  She never once took the food away, tried to discipline him, etc.  When I said that she shouldn't have let her kid do that, one of my friends got offended and said he's just a kid.  I did respond that the parents are supposed to be teaching kids the proper behavior at the table, especially in public and that someone, not the parent, would have to clean up that mess.  She didn't really care and now I know why another friend called her children "brats".  

  • As a person with no children, I love it!  I also love to travel and stay at "adults only" resorts, like Sandals.

    I love the comment in the article about adults tolerating "loud people at bars."  I will take a loud, had too much to drink person at a bar over a baby/child throwing a fit 10 times out of 10!

  • I think it would be nice for date nights, kinda like the idea. Nothing worse then having a date night, with a screaming kid standing in the booth behind you. And Brianna, you are the kind of mom I love. We were at an Olive Garden once, and this mom just kept telling her little girl to eat, little girl didn't want to and was crying and screaming most of the meal. Dad finally got up, to take the girl to the car, and mom got PISSED because Dad was doing this. She said "its fine that she is doing this, you don't have to take her out of the resturant!" The husband said "everyone here would like to enjoy their meal in peace" and walked out!

    And my parents would do the same to us. And they taught us to be on our best behavior in public. Poor DH, when he acted up his mom would say "want me to take you to the bathroom" and he'd say no mama and act right.

    ETA: Oh and a girl I used to be friends with was the mom who let her kid do whatever he wanted. We were at Black Eyed Pea once. It was me, my in-laws, my friend, her mom, and her son. Her son, who was about  4 at the time, was RUNNING around the resturant (granted there were only about 3 other tables with people at the time, but still) and she just kept letting him do it. So finally, my friends mom looked at my friend and said "I would have whopped your a$$ by now"  She got up, got her son, and was pissed the rest of the meal. But inside, I was cheering!

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  • I would love to go to a restaurant like this.  And I do agree, the parents should be disciplining their children and teaching them how to behave in public.  It makes it very hard for me to enjoy my meal when there is a screaming child and the parents won't take them outside!  I was never allowed to act like that when I was growing up!
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  • I think it's a good idea.  Yes I would definitely frequent a restaurant like this.  DH and I like kids, but sometimes we are so exhausted all we want is a peaceful time at dinner since that is about the only kind of quite time we get.  It's not like the kids won't ever grow up to the age to go to the place!  I know my parents rarely took us out as kids, and if we caused problems, we didn't go out for a long time after. 

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  • Yes

    However, that being said...  I don't mind if there are unruly children something are doing something about it.   Even the best of kids with the best of parents have their moments, I think.

  • DH would love this. Usually I can tune out kids in restaurants, but he's not so good at it ... having a loud kid sitting next to us is one of his pet-peeves.

    Honestly, though, the worst meals out we've had were when we could hear the entire conversation of the teens/tweens sitting next to us. I can remember two times in particular, and one of those times we were the only 2 tables in a Chinese restaurant -- but they seated us right next to each other. It was 30 minutes of "OMG! Kelli did not say that to you! She is such a loser! Me, personally, I am so sick of drama this year ... no more drama ..." and so on and so forth with the HS melodrama and BS.

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    Yes

    However, that being said...  I don't mind if there are unruly children something are doing something about it.   Even the best of kids with the best of parents have their moments, I think.

    I agree.  And that's when you need to know when to remove yourself from the situation.  Although I'd like to think that my child is an angel, I know that she's not all the time.  However, that's when it's time to take her outside.

  • I'm all for it.  I cannot handle screaming kids in a restaurant.  I also cannot handle little kids who run in restaurants.  I would visit this restaurant - a lot.
  • I think this is a fantastic idea.  I don't mind having kids around, but I cannot stand a screaming child.  Especially one whose parents seem to have suddenly gone deaf.  It makes me want to go up and shake the parent and tell them YOUR CHILD NEEDS SOMETHING.  If your child is screaming, you shouldn't just be sitting there letting it happen - either fix the problem, or remove the problem from earshot of people without screaming children.

    As far as some parents feeling upset and saying they're being discriminated against - there are plenty of places that are kid friendly, and I'm sure kids would enjoy going there a lot more than places like this - so those parents can just get over and head to Chuck E Cheese. Smile

  • imageangieandjames:

    I think this is a fantastic idea.  I don't mind having kids around, but I cannot stand a screaming child.  Especially one whose parents seem to have suddenly gone deaf.  It makes me want to go up and shake the parent and tell them YOUR CHILD NEEDS SOMETHING.  If your child is screaming, you shouldn't just be sitting there letting it happen - either fix the problem, or remove the problem from earshot of people without screaming children.

    Well see, there is this philosophy, if you will, about ignoring the kid when they act out because they are just going for attention.  So if you have someone throwing a fit, they likely will stop once they realize no one if paying attention to them and they don't have an audience.  The same philosophy can be applied to adults who like to throw fits ;)  So I wonder if that's why there is the difference today compared to when we grew up.

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    Well see, there is this philosophy, if you will, about ignoring the kid when they act out because they are just going for attention.  So if you have someone throwing a fit, they likely will stop once they realize no one if paying attention to them and they don't have an audience.  The same philosophy can be applied to adults who like to throw fits ;)  So I wonder if that's why there is the difference today compared to when we grew up.

    I get that and I do understand.  But, I don't think I should have to listen to your kid scream at the top of his/her lungs, because you (universal you, not you specifically Jaymi) are teaching them a lesson.  Maybe that lesson should be taught at home, before you take your child out in public.

  • I like this and which more "upscale, casual, quiet" restaurants would do this.  I love my SD and I love taking her places but there are some places that are kid free.  I don't put up with loud, running around, not listening behavior.  DH is a lot more laid back than I am.  When we first started dating I would be embarrassed to go out to eat with them because she would scream, run around, throw food, etc.  I told DH at the time that until she started acting like a human and not a monkey I would no longer be eating out with them.  It was hard on the relationship but I refused to be a part of raising a spoiled brat that didn't listen.  We only had a few more dates and took a break. 

    I guess another girl told him the same thing because he called and apologized and SD is MUCH better in public now.  She still has her moments but she also knows that if she acts up she will not be going to eat dinner out with us and will be sitting in the car with me (the one that won't let her play on my phone, jump around the car or continue her behavior).  It has taken DH some time to get use to it but it makes going out in public so much easier.  It's still hard on SD because mom has no rules and she can act like a brat with her but we do not put up with it at our house any longer.

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  • Love it.

    I think it's a great idea. Parents can go to any other restaurant with their child. It's the business owners choice, afterall.

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    imageshortgirltx:

    Well see, there is this philosophy, if you will, about ignoring the kid when they act out because they are just going for attention.  So if you have someone throwing a fit, they likely will stop once they realize no one if paying attention to them and they don't have an audience.  The same philosophy can be applied to adults who like to throw fits ;)  So I wonder if that's why there is the difference today compared to when we grew up.

    I get that and I do understand.  But, I don't think I should have to listen to your kid scream at the top of his/her lungs, because you (universal you, not you specifically Jaymi) are teaching them a lesson.  Maybe that lesson should be taught at home, before you take your child out in public.

    There's a time and place for everything so I agree.  Do that at home and then remove the child from the situation when you are in public. 

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    imageshortgirltx:

    Well see, there is this philosophy, if you will, about ignoring the kid when they act out because they are just going for attention.  So if you have someone throwing a fit, they likely will stop once they realize no one if paying attention to them and they don't have an audience.  The same philosophy can be applied to adults who like to throw fits ;)  So I wonder if that's why there is the difference today compared to when we grew up.

    I get that and I do understand.  But, I don't think I should have to listen to your kid scream at the top of his/her lungs, because you (universal you, not you specifically Jaymi) are teaching them a lesson.  Maybe that lesson should be taught at home, before you take your child out in public.

    Ditto.  

    Also, just because you get up and take them outside doesn't mean they don't learn the lesson.  Going out to dinner was always a treat and, if we were misbehaving, that meant that we missed out on the one night a week that we got to eat out.  And, like Lacey said, just because you're teaching a lesson doesn't mean that everyone else has to suffer.  You can let them self-soothe (or Ferberize him if you know Meet the Fockers) at home in the crib.  

  • I'm just throwing this out there, but do you think the screaming child or the one who is running around also has something to do with the fact parents can't discipline their child as they see fit. My parents were all about hitting, pinching and such. Granted for my mom it got a little out of control but for the most part it made us behave. Now it seems like a parent can get CPS called on them if ANYONE sees them even come close to physically discipline. There is only so far you can get with "rationalizing" or talking a kid out of tantrum.
  • imageDFWIndian:
    Now it seems like a parent can get CPS called on them if ANYONE sees them even come close to physically discipline. There is only so far you can get with "rationalizing" or talking a kid out of tantrum.

    Very good insight Deepthi.  I think you have a valid point. 

  • Being the parent of a two year old little boy...I think it is a great idea. I honestly only take my son to louder restuarants and kid friendly places anyway so this is not an issue for me. He is good most of the time wherever we take him, but he doesn't quite understand the inside voice thing yet. We are working on it though. Smile He is not upset...he just laughs loudly and is playing like a normal two year old. I do not let him run around though, that is a pet peeve of mine. He is still at the age where he has to be somwhat entertained if we are somewhere for a long time, but not jumping around in a restaurant. He will get better with age and then he can start going with us more. We have date night every Friday and I would definately visit somewhere like this with DH. Wink

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