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what can your current employer really say when your new job calls?
What are the questions that a new employer can ask your old employer? Can they get into reasons why you left or is that not allowed?
I am under the impression that they can ask these questions..
A) What dates did this person work for you
Would you hire them again.
are there others I am not aware of. Its the state of Michigan if that makes a difference. TIA.
Re: what can your current employer really say when your new job calls?
Would you rehire is the big give away.
if they say NO you're sol.
They can also talk to somebody from your old job off the record.
Employers shouldn't be contacting your former bosses -- maybe your former boss is still pissed you left. or you never really got along with your boss.
Or maybe your boss is your uncle, your aunt or another close friend or relative...just sayin'.
It's my impression that different companies have different policies. And some people in HR know people from other companies and can use back-door ways to ask about someone.
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This. My former boss who was my principal was a very difficult person to get along with. I agree that they shouldnt be contacting your former boss. But how else would they verify your experience? Through their references...As a teacher applicant, I must list my principal as my reference, so hopefully, she will be nice. I dont trust the situation though. Shes ruthless.
That sucks.
And on a very off chance, suppose a coirker of yours that you did not get along with gets on the line and says "This is Ms. X, the department chair that supervised Mary Smith; may I help you?"
Does the person calling and doing the reference check know that who they are speaking to is NOT your fomer boss???
Try this one on for size:
I worked for a company that was hiring on for a position. Part of my job was to call and get reference checks.
The boss was one second away from hiring this one particular guy; 2 of 3 of his references couldn't say enough good things about him.
We could not locate the third one, which was his boss.
My boss said to me, "Call there and ask for Joe Blow." Joe Blow was a guy who we did business with; Joe Blow was the boss of the guy's boss...but not the applicant's supervisor.
Uh, wow...what business do you have contacting somebody NOT on the guy's reference list??
My boss called Joe herself. Joe said "Don't hire him; he will only do just what you ask him to do an nothing more."
The guy did not get the job.
How is that for rotten??? maybe Joe Blow barely knew the candidate who wanted our job???
I actually strongly disagree. I am in HR and check references for new hires. I require that they provide former bosses. If they can't/won't, that is a red flag to me.
To answer the original question, they can ask what they want. Lots of HR departments will only verify dates of employment/eligibility for rehire, but that doesn't mean that other employees will follow that policy.
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I totally disagree with PP who say they shouldn't be contacting your old bosses. Yes, you provided references, and yes certain companies have policies around what they can and cannot say. But HR reps and potential supervisors have a duty to their company to hire the best candidates for the position, and in my mind, they can do what's necessary to hire that person.
Recently, we interviewed someone for a position at my company. She was competent, but we were nervous about her. She listed a position on her resume with an organization one of my internal colleagues knew well. He sent an email to a couple of people there. One called him immediately and called her an "unmitigated f*cking disaster". We were on the fence about her, but that put us over the edge. Anyone who could elicit that kind of distaste didn't need to work for us.
Your resume is important, but your reputation is more important. If you can't back up your resume with your reputation, that's your fault.
Your prospective employer can ask anything. Your former employer can answer any Qs. The only thing that is required is the old employer tell the truth.
If you were a problem employee who never came to work on time & were fired for cause, your old employer is allowed to tell anybody that.
Most companies have an internal policy of only answering Qs about dates & salaries b/c its a bright line rule which treats everybody equally & hopefully keeps them out of litigation in the future but it's not a law.