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Sugar Daddy/Sugar Baby

What do you think about this type of relationship? It seems that it is a growing trend for young women to seek out older men, not only to wine and dine them, but to pay for college.

http://jezebel.com/5827680/nancy-snyderman-if-you-have-a-sugar-daddy-you-must-be-a-hooker

I am not quite sure how I feel about this. I saw an episode about this the other day on True Life: I'm a Sugar Baby (MTV). The girls who participated in the program said that they were not having sex with the men but still expected them to buy them stuff. They said that the men were paying for their company and being able to show them off in public.

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Re: Sugar Daddy/Sugar Baby

  • I think we are in the dawn of the Self-Entitled Age. H's Step sister's daughter is a sugar baby in Florida. She is a smart kid, but dumb in life choices. She gave up a full scholarship in our home state to move to another college in FL. She racked up $150k in loans she can't afford, dropped out after 18 months, and is now waitressing and has a sugar daddy "boyfriend" to pay for everything. It ASTOUNDS me that someone is silly enough to pay for her antics.
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  • $150k in loans for only 18 months?? Wow how did that happen? Have you met her BF? What is he like? Is he cute?

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  • imagedulcemariamar1:

    $150k in loans for only 18 months?? Wow how did that happen? Have you met her BF? What is he like? Is he cute?

    Yes! I was like WTF?!! when MIL told me that. I have no idea where she went, all I know is that they took a loan out for absolutely everything from tuition to meals to rent to all new gadgets for school. I haven't met the BF, he seems pretty cute, I think he's from Miami. So Spanish looking, dark eyes, hair etc. She is a very good looking girl too, so I can see why he's attracted to her. 

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  • But what is the difference then between sugar daddy and rich BF that wants to be nice and help out his GF: The line seems to be a bit blurry.
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  • I think he has a string of leading ladies from what I can gather. She expects him to pay for everything and I think she gets some sort of "allowance" from him too. The whole situation is weird.
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  • I would feel gross getting significant gifts or money from someone if I didn't care for them a certain way. I mean, I guess if the guy wanted to provide a scholarship and people submitted an essay and I won and could spend the money as I please, I would be ok with it. 

    I was grossed out at my old job when my boss spent a ton of money for an a-list celebrity to come to an event we hosted and that was just the actresses regular appearance fee.  

  • imagetraveling turtle:

     I guess if the guy wanted to provide a scholarship and people submitted an essay and I won and could spend the money as I please, I would be ok with it. 

     

    LOL I am sorry but I just found this funny. I could only imagine a suggar daddy holding an essay contest. What would the topic be?

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  • If the men involved know what they are getting themselves into, and the women involved know how it makes them look, I have no problem with it.
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  • I definitely created an account on sugardaddie.com to check out these men.  Turns out you have to pay for most of the services so I didn't see THAT much but what I did see - they want sex they don't want companionship.  They want a trophy girlfriend who will sleep with them and in return, the woman gets gifts, allowances, nights out on the town, etc.

    IMO it is not prostitution.  It is a relationship. A fucked up relationship but still a relationship. 

  • Haha Investigation research. Did you see any pics of the men? Do they look scary?

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  • imagePseudonim:
    imagedulcemariamar1:

    $150k in loans for only 18 months?? Wow how did that happen? Have you met her BF? What is he like? Is he cute?

    Yes! I was like WTF?!! when MIL told me that. I have no idea where she went, all I know is that they took a loan out for absolutely everything from tuition to meals to rent to all new gadgets for school. I haven't met the BF, he seems pretty cute, I think he's from Miami. So Spanish looking, dark eyes, hair etc. She is a very good looking girl too, so I can see why he's attracted to her. 

    Um, I think your MIL may be exaggerating. Generally schools have to enforce a "reasonable" cost of living lending amount. Just as a point of reference, I could only borrow up to $50k a year to cover tuition, books, apartment and food while attending law school in Boston. My little brother had the same sort of limit on his loans while an undergrad at a college in Boston as well. The only person I've ever met who was able to take out more than that per year went to Northwestern, and got screwed over thanks to unlimited school-financed loans or something of that sort. I also can't imagine a private lending company giving her $150k just like that. We're not talking about a mortgage here.

    Anyway, not to get completely off topic, but I think maybe MIL is being a bit melodramatic about SIL's loans. I wouldn't doubt you if you said she'd managed to accumulate $50k to $80k, but $150k? Did they buy a condo and/or a BMW on credit for her? 

     

  • imageTotZiens:

    I definitely created an account on sugardaddie.com to check out these men.  Turns out you have to pay for most of the services so I didn't see THAT much but what I did see - they want sex they don't want companionship.  They want a trophy girlfriend who will sleep with them and in return, the woman gets gifts, allowances, nights out on the town, etc.

    IMO it is not prostitution.  It is a relationship. A fucked up relationship but still a relationship. 

    Hehe. I hope you don't leave that website open to your account for your H or SO to find! You might have some fun explaining that one!

  • imagemels123:
    imageTotZiens:

    I definitely created an account on sugardaddie.com to check out these men.  Turns out you have to pay for most of the services so I didn't see THAT much but what I did see - they want sex they don't want companionship.  They want a trophy girlfriend who will sleep with them and in return, the woman gets gifts, allowances, nights out on the town, etc.

    IMO it is not prostitution.  It is a relationship. A fucked up relationship but still a relationship. 

    Hehe. I hope you don't leave that website open to your account for your H or SO to find! You might have some fun explaining that one!

    he reads it with me :) 

  • imagedulcemariamar1:

    Haha Investigation research. Did you see any pics of the men? Do they look scary?

    I had one contact me and wanted to know if I did oral.  He was sexy. 

  • Very common in Africa.  When I was in undergrad I spent a year abroad in Ghana & the amount of old men exhcanging sexual favors for tuition payments was huge.
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  • Hm. I really do think that any relationship between consenting adults is fine. There are way too many blurry lines on this one for me to be comfortable taking a stand either way.

    DH supported me for a year so I could finish uni. We were living together but not married or engaged yet... so I guess I'm one of those women! 

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  • imagemels123:
    imagePseudonim:
    imagedulcemariamar1:

    $150k in loans for only 18 months?? Wow how did that happen? Have you met her BF? What is he like? Is he cute?

    Yes! I was like WTF?!! when MIL told me that. I have no idea where she went, all I know is that they took a loan out for absolutely everything from tuition to meals to rent to all new gadgets for school. I haven't met the BF, he seems pretty cute, I think he's from Miami. So Spanish looking, dark eyes, hair etc. She is a very good looking girl too, so I can see why he's attracted to her. 

    Um, I think your MIL may be exaggerating. Generally schools have to enforce a "reasonable" cost of living lending amount. Just as a point of reference, I could only borrow up to $50k a year to cover tuition, books, apartment and food while attending law school in Boston. My little brother had the same sort of limit on his loans while an undergrad at a college in Boston as well. The only person I've ever met who was able to take out more than that per year went to Northwestern, and got screwed over thanks to unlimited school-financed loans or something of that sort. I also can't imagine a private lending company giving her $150k just like that. We're not talking about a mortgage here.

    Anyway, not to get completely off topic, but I think maybe MIL is being a bit melodramatic about SIL's loans. I wouldn't doubt you if you said she'd managed to accumulate $50k to $80k, but $150k? Did they buy a condo and/or a BMW on credit for her? 

     

    Not all of it was tuition loans. They took out other loans for a car, clothing and a top of the line computer for her graphic design degree. Top that off with a really expensive school and you have $150k in debt. She's always been a spoiled princess and gets whatever she wants. Her brother is a douchecanoe as well. We caught him stealing a bottle of wine from MIL's house when he was 13. WTF indeed.

     

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