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Was I rude, or is this guy a jerk?

My guess is he was just a jerk, but you know, I'm open to hearing otherwise.

After work today I went to the tube station and wanted to get one of those 'Baby on Board' pins. I don't always need to sit, but sometimes I do, and I'm too shy to ask. So I go up to the guy manning the turnstiles, and I say, "Excuse me". Three times. Each time consecutively louder and he didn't hear me. So I reached out with one finger and tapped him on the shoulder.

He turned around and I said, "I'm sorry, but can you tell me how to get a baby on board pin? Do I order it, or wait in line?"

Then he goes off on me! He was like, "Do you know that it's rude to touch someone? Well I'm telling you now. You are rude! I am telling you, you are rude!" When I said I called him three times, he said I should have called him 100 times, but not to touch him. 

I just nodded my head and walked away. 

So what's the verdict, INs? Is it rude to tap someone on the shoulder? I should add that it was a gentle tap, almost more like a graze.

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Re: Was I rude, or is this guy a jerk?

  • I vote not rude, but I won't have touched him.  Mainly because he was a turnstile operator.  When he felt you tap him, he probably was expecting a rude, about to yell and complain customer so he was geared up for a fight.  With all the abuse posters on the tube, I won't have touched them.

    I don't think it is rude to tap someone on the shoulder, but I think it depends who it is, their role, and the environment.  

    Did you end up getting your pin?  I would go to the counters to ask as opposed to the turnstile operators.

     

     

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  • Holy over-reaction (on his part)!  I'm voting for jerk.

    While I probably wouldn't have touched him (my friends mock me for being completely anti-touch-- seriously), I certainly don't think a gentle 'tap' is "rude". 

    Might be NMS, and evidently, not his style either, but having a child-like meltdown and insisting the toucher is "rude" 3xs in 1 minute, seems indisputably rude. 

    I think a simple, "madam, you gave me a bit of a start, please do be careful, it's usually best to keep your hands to yourself"-- while unnecessary, would have been far closer to appropriate (if he indeed felt strongly) than the freak-out/name calling.

     

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  • I think it probably wasn't the right choice to tap him but I think his reaction was way more out of line than the tap. Definitely.
  • Interesting on the no-tapping. Noted.

     I did get my pin. There was a long line and I didn't want to wait if I just had to order it online or something, but I dealt with the line and got one. 

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    I vote not rude, but I won't have touched him.  Mainly because he was a turnstile operator.  When he felt you tap him, he probably was expecting a rude, about to yell and complain customer so he was geared up for a fight.  With all the abuse posters on the tube, I won't have touched them.

    I don't think it is rude to tap someone on the shoulder, but I think it depends who it is, their role, and the environment.  

    Did you end up getting your pin?  I would go to the counters to ask as opposed to the turnstile operators.

     

     

    All of this. People that work in Tube stations are probably perpetually on edge.
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  • I vote both. I don't think tapping is a good idea, but obviously he was an enormous jerkface.
  • I think he over reacted, but I wouldn't have touched him either I don't think.  

     

    You get those pins at the Tube, I had no idea.   

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  • I think he was a total jerk. Was he from elsewhere (like somewhere in Asia maybe) where that might be culturally unacceptable? I know some people don't want to be touched but really, that's just a massive overreaction. There's something really ironic about this when you're asking for something pregnancy related and pg women constantly talk about being annoyed by strangers touching their bellies. Also, I want one of these pins. ETA: I asked DH about this scenario and he said in that situation it would be totally acceptable in Ethiopia to grab the dude by the arm and say "Hey, old man!" lol...good thing you didn't do that ;)
  • I didn't really think about the not- touching part until others mentioned it.  I don't know what I would have done actually, but I do think he overreacted.  He could have said it in a more polite way than going off at you if it really bothered him. 
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  • Personally, I don't think I would tap someone on the shoulder unless I knew them, and even then it would depend on the circumstances.  Like the others, I don't think tapping someone on the shoulder is RUDE though.

    I definitely think he over-reacted.   I wonder if maybe something happened to him ealier in the day that put him on edge.  Maybe lots of people tap him on the shoulder?  Maybe the last person that tapped him on the shoulder yelled at him?   I imagine that with all of the violence in London this week, a lot of public service personnel were probably on edge....

     But no, you weren't rude.

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  • I would have tapped him on the shoulder - I've never heard anything unacceptable about it.  Grabbing,yes, a light tap to get someone's attention, no problem - especially if they seemingly couldn't hear you.  What if the guy was hard of hearing?  Would it have been less rude to yell really loudly at him?  Seriuosly - it was a tap.  He was a yerk.
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  • I vote for jerk, I tap people when they can't hear me too. Mostly touch them with my finger in a real light way, probably not even a tap but I ''touch'' people. And if you yelled at him, because he clearly didn't hear you the 3 times? Would you still be rude? Geez, if it bothered him I'm sorry but it's VERY rude to yell at a lady, and wtf just because of a light tap on the shoulder? Maybe if you punched him, he'd smile :)
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  • I'm sorry he yelled at you, that's horrible and he was totally rude.

    But personally, I cannot stand it when strangers touch me. This guy ahead from me on a queue admired my bracelet and just touched my wrist and I was not pleased. I didn't scream in his face though!

    I'm glad you what you needed in the end though. 

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