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A great article on moving overseas...

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  • I think one day we should all get together from this board and write a book about living abroad. We probably could make a lot of money.
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  • imagedulcemariamar1:
    I think one day we should all get together from this board and write a book about living abroad. We probably could make a lot of money.

    Yes! Living abroad can be a lot of fun but also completely messed up sometimes. On that note, I look forward to reading Tofu's book.

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  • That's really interesting.  It always annoys me when people think the process is so easy - even in Cambodia where a 12 month working visa is $125 so it's easy to get in, the culture shock is a daily challenge.

    This should be sticky, as a reference for anyone who's considering moving abroad.  Side note, I noticed a post the other day - I think on P&CE? - that was sort of along these lines.  Basically saying, if you don't like the direction our country is going, would you consider moving abroad? I was surprised by some of the answers and everyone seemed to take it pretty lightly for something that's a huge life-altering decision.

    Now jumping domestically.

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    Well that was a crazy couple of years.

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  • Thanks for posting! That was really interesting and pretty much true. I love the "possibly ending on the phrase ... saved your ass in World War II." I have heard americans utter that phrase. I wonder how long is long enough for americans to stop throwing that one out there.

  • Interesting article.

    Is the bit about French prisons true?  

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  • Love it - I only read the subheadings, though.

    I would change the #1 answer about only hanging out with Americans. I only have one American friend here, so I would change it to "You will likely find a forum with lots of Americans and spend more time online than you ever did before". 

  • I liked this: "Even in "tolerant" countries like the U.K. and New Zealand, Americans of all colors can still count on strangers yelling at them in public and targeting them with anti-American graffiti." Cos that happens to me all the time...

    (Does it really happen to anyone in so-called tolerant countries, or is the author taking the mickey?)

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  • That's a great article!  I definitely got a laugh out of it, and a lot of it was spot on regarding the difficulties you face when you relocate.
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  • Welsh - I've been yelled at by drunks in bars randomly for being American. More so when we first moved here and Bush was in charge, people really hated him here. They were usually distracted by my agreeing with their points and would wander off but it happened more than once! Edinburgh is super international though so it's usually a really diverse mix of people.

    This is a great article, just sent it to my DH. I swear, I have never been as patriotic as I am now and that article explained it really well! 

    I have to say, I wasn't prepared for the culture shock. I'd never travelled before moving here and in my head, it would all be fine since it was in English. Ha! I couldn't understand anything anyone said to me and had various adventures finding things I thought were staples (seriously, it's like impossible to find silver polish when you want it). I am so  very impressed with anyone who moves somewhere with a different language, I can't imagine trying to do all this without being able to read the labels. 

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  • I like the links to the other articles, especially the one about the anti-american sentiment in Canada. I hate that the comments say "just move to Canada, it's just like the U.S." 

    Not the part of Canada I live in, that's for sure. I've always wanted to live in another country but the process is awful. I wish people would stop thinking it was like study abroad. That said, I met amazing people here and I love the culture. 

    The article should also mention you have to stalk Skype just to talk to your friends and family because they'll never call because of long distance. 

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    I liked this: "Even in "tolerant" countries like the U.K. and New Zealand, Americans of all colors can still count on strangers yelling at them in public and targeting them with anti-American graffiti." Cos that happens to me all the time...

    (Does it really happen to anyone in so-called tolerant countries, or is the author taking the mickey?)

    Yes, there's a very very strong anti-American sentiment in Australia NZ and the UK. People might not say it to your face, but once you befriend someone they're almost certainly seeing you as an exception. It's focused on the republican/libertarian/texan/southern type of American.

  • imageKnitty:
    imagewelshgirl:

    I liked this: "Even in "tolerant" countries like the U.K. and New Zealand, Americans of all colors can still count on strangers yelling at them in public and targeting them with anti-American graffiti." Cos that happens to me all the time...

    (Does it really happen to anyone in so-called tolerant countries, or is the author taking the mickey?)

    Yes, there's a very very strong anti-American sentiment in Australia NZ and the UK. People might not say it to your face, but once you befriend someone they're almost certainly seeing you as an exception. It's focused on the republican/libertarian/texan/southern type of American.

    I'd really like some answers to questions, Knitty.  

    How long has it been since you have been to Australia? And were you here as a tourist?  You seem to know an awful lot about Australia circa 1950.  Are you an American in Australia?  I am.  I have never seen evidence of an Anti-American sentiment.  I don't come out and announce I am an American.  Most people think I am Canadian first, but when they find out I am from the US, they are just as welcoming and accepting -- and it doesn't change when they find out I am from the Southern US (though admittedly, NO is not a typical Southern US city).

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