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F/U: buying a flipped house question
grrrr....i wish i could fire my realtor. i asked about pulling permits and stuff...and this is what she said:
"Well, I'm certainly not going to stop you from checking with the City. I always recommend checking out everything and anything that concerns you. I have a feeling though that your not going to find much. Right after we moved into our house, we had contractors tear out the Shower and Tub that was in our master bathroom to build a BIG shower and we had the plumber in there moving plumbing over and added plumbing for a second shower head and the electricians in there moving Lights over on the ceiling and neither one of them had to pull permits to do the work in our home. And everyone we hired was a certified contractor. The electrician also installed all our lights, ceiling fans in the house, and floodlights and a dedicated outlet in the backyard for the Jaccuzi."
unfortunately, she's the wife of one of DH's coworkers. DH just started working there, and we don't want to rock the boat. i didn't really want to use her to begin with, but DH agreed to let them show us around, and after the first weekend, i felt guilty about her showing us around and not using her.
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Re: F/U: buying a flipped house question
I don't even know the permit rules for my town, but I would expect that anyone I hire who has a license to do the right thing. Is it possible that none of the things she had done required a permit?
sometimes governement doesn't care if the work will not have an impact on the outside world (new meter, turning off water at the street to fix main line, building an addition or deck).
i'd like direction. with the exception of posessing a master key, i've gotten more help from thenest than i have from her. i asked about pulling permits, and if she could get the previous MLS reports. she pulled them, but she still doen'st understand why. course, she only pulled the ones from the sale 10 years ago, not from the one last month that would give more info about the condition the house was in when the flipper bought it.
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she doens't understand my concerns with buying a flipped house. she doesn't think there's a difference between buying a well cared for existing home, versus a house that was foreclosed and then flipped. they keep pushing buying a new construction. oh...and she actually works for a homebuilder, and has brought up their spec home several times now.
my concern with a flip is that they hid existing problems by making it pretty. it doesn't help that half of my questions she can't answer. i prefer it when her husband tags along, because he's more helpful than she is.
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I would check into everything on your own. I know you don't want to rock the boat because it's your husband's coworker, but it something was/is wrong, I don't think things will go over very well with her at that point either... from your end and your husband's that is.
I would call the city permit office myself and just explain the situation, your concerns, your newness at home buying and ask if they could give you some info on 1. whether permits were pulled and 2. whether permits were required. You'll hopefully get someone helpful and sympathetic.
We've done a lot on our house and have pulled permits as required, but that's been on very specific things. We don't pull a permit every time a light switch gets changed, and we didn't pull permits to tile our kitchen and baths in the old house. We did pull permits for the new HVAC, the back porch, and something else the contractor was working on but I forget what now. We didn't get a permit on our shed, but if it was two feet wider on one side, we would have had to pull one. You'll have to find out from the county or city if permits were required for what they did.
We looked at one house we loved and discovered when we looked at the tax record that they'd put a huge addition over the garage. Cosmetically, it tied in wonderfully (but many other things were half assed so we wondered about quality of the work). The seller said she'd pulled permits but couldn't remember the contractor's name, the county said there were no permits pulled. The agent's attitude was basically, "Well, she said she did, y'all want to make an offer?" This was early in the process, before we had an agent, so we'd just gone with one that was on call with the listing agent's office.
Yeah, I think it's *very* common for work to be performed un-permitted that should be, even when you hire licensed people. We're DIY renovating our basement and I looked up the permit rules for our county just in case...and found out that when we moved in and had the HVAC replaced and the water heater switched from gas to electric, yeah both of those should have been permitted. And I'm positive the contractor didn't do it, because no one ever came out to inspect like the county says they should.
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While the quality of the county inspectors may vary, this isn't the case where I am. An inspector comes out to determine if the work is up to code or not. Some inspectors catch everything, some miss things.
where my parents are from...the city will sometimes make you remove stuff if you didn't get a permit.
the realtor just frustrates me because she often doesn't seem like she knows what she's doing.
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Honestly, if you are this unhappy with your realtor, then it is time for a new agent. I know she is a spouse of a coworker to your DH, but this is not about friendship. This is one of the biggest business transactions you will ever enter into and you should have faith in the abilities of your agent. I'm sure you DH is professional enough to ride the waves of the "breakup."
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