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How reasonable are these requests?

We recently did an inspection on the home we are looking to purchase. On the whole, it went well but there are a couple of things that were concerning to us and we would like repaired before we move in. If you were a seller, how reasonable would you find these requests?

-The windowsills (7 of them), the fascia above the front door, and the front door sill are completely rotted out. We would like these replaced.

-The garage has termite and carpenter ant damage as well as severe rotting on one wall, partially hidden by sheet rock. We would like the sheet rock removed and the wall repaired.

-The furnace is at least 35 years old- well past its expected lifetime. The inspector said it could really go at any time. We would like a $1500 credit at closing to replace it.

-For safety reasons and since we are doing a VA home loan, we would like the broken front stoop to be repaired.

 While there were many more things to work on, we think we can handle those. Is this a reasonable list? Our expected closing date was 9/30 so it may be that not all repairs could be done within this time frame. IF that were the case, we would be satisfied with a $5,000 credit at closing (we are already covering all closing costs). I am not sure if we should tell them that from the start, or wait because we would much rather have these things repaired before we move in.

 Thanks so much! 

Re: How reasonable are these requests?

  • As a buyer, I would ask for everything except the furnace credit.  If the furnace currently works, you can not expect them to pay just because it could go at any time.  Technically, anything could go at any time.
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  • Reasonable is in the eye of the beholder.  As a seller, we would never consider your request for the furnace.  It is working and it is really not reasonable for you to expect them to give you an advance on a new unit.

    As for the others, you can ask.   They might say yes, or they might offer you a $ amount.  They might say no, but you will never know unless you ask.

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    As a buyer, I would ask for everything except the furnace credit.  If the furnace currently works, you can not expect them to pay just because it could go at any time.  Technically, anything could go at any time.
    I agree. You put an offer in on the house knowing the furnace was old. Well, I assume you looked at the AC/furnace when checking out the house. It works so unless it breaks before closing, a seller should not have to pay for that. Are the sellers paying for a home warranty or have you looked into purchasing one?
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  • When I sold my house there was a window sill that was partially dry rotted. I would have replaced it if they had asked. So if I was your seller I would take care of the sills and the termite damage. Since the furnice is still working I would not replace it because it is currently running and may run for another couple of years. Without seeing the broken front stoop I have a hard time saying if I would replace it.

    Personally I would give you the $5,000 credit at closing just so I didn't have to deal with fixing everything. I think everything you ask for is reasonable and I would leave the your request for credit for the furnice in because it gives some negotiating room. If you want the repairs done before moving don't offer the $5000 credit because they should have plenty of time to complete them before closing. You can always come back and offer the $5000/no repairs if they turn down the repairs.

  • We were considering a home warranty, but haven't looked into it too much. Would it be better to ask for that in lieu of the furnace request? I understand that it was a reach, but figured the worst they could do is say no and we also discovered today that the electronic air cleaner on it does not work. Also, like PP said, we figured it would give us some negotiating room.
  • As a seller, I wouldn't have given you a credit for the furnace (we lost a buyer b/c we wouldn't replace an HVAC system that worked and that had been maintained twice a year, she wanted a new one b/c it was 15+ years old) nor would I fix a stoop that you walked on to get into the house to look at it.  I'd assume you knew it was messed up and took it into account with your offer.  I'd probably fix the rotted stuff, unless those things were taken into account on the sales price.
  • The reason that we want the stoop repaired is because we can't close on a VA loan with it in the current condition. It is broken to the point where the railing is falling off. I would fix it myself, but can't close with it still broken. Maybe we can offer to cover the cost, but it has to be done before we move in. It shouldn't be too much as it can simply be covered with new concrete, according to the inspector.
  • As the seller, I wouldn't have fixed those type of things.  The sills because those weren't hidden damage and I'm assuming taken into account when pricing the house.  The damage in the wall I might give credit for, but would not have been able to deal with getting repair myself. 

    And the furnace, if it still works, as for a home warranty (although I typically think those are worthless). 

  • Actually, most of the sills (5 out of 7)  had covers placed on them so you can't see the damage. The other two were on the on the upper level and we could not see the damage from the inside (it is the outside sill that is rotted) but the inspector found it while inspecting the roof. He said that we need them replaced because under the coverings it is pretty much just a rotted out hole and could spread. I am not sure if this counts as hidden or not, but we certainly didn't expect it. 

     Good points, though. Thanks everyone for your help. It is important to me that we don't come off as jerks, but that we reach a fair compromise. 

  • We would fix (and ask for if we were the buyers) everything except the furnance credit. We would probably pay for a home warranty, but you should have put that in the offer initially.

    If you need the stoop fixed for your loan, they are going to have to fix it. DH had to scrape old paint off the fountain and repaint parts just because FHA said it didn't to be done for our buyer to close. It was stupid IMO, but we had to do it.

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    If you need the stoop fixed for your loan, they are going to have to fix it.

    Just to clarify...they only have to fix it if they want to complete the sale with the OP as the buyer.  The sellers do not have to do anything to help the buyer with their loan if they do not want to. However,  I would be suprised if they did not fix it if that was going to cause them to lose the sale. 

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  • I have not priced out any of those repairs but I'm assuming you did to come up with the $5K figure.  As a buyer I would ask for things that were rotting to be repaired and as a seller I would think it reasonable to either repair them or give credit for repairs.  I think the furnace thing is ridiculous and I wouldn't ask for that.  Since its a condition of your loan I would ask for the front stoop to be repaired and I wouldn't want a sale to fall through (especially in this market) over something like that so as a seller I'd repair it.
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  • OK, you all have convinced my to let the furnace thing drop. Thanks for your advice! I think I will ask for a one year home warranty if possible though. Worst they can do is say no, right?
  • I think the front stoop could end up being a sticking point. Most sellers don't expect to fix clearly visable items and they may be upset if they think you knew about this ahead of time and didn't disclose it. They probably will fix the stoop, but I wouldn't be surprised if they are less willing to work with you on the other, more legit repairs.
  • I understand. As I said in a previous post, I am ok with paying for that. It really won't be a lot. But we do need at least access to get it done before closing, or VA won't do it. I think that would be a silly thing to lose a sale over. 
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  • imageApril37:
    As a buyer, I would ask for everything except the furnace credit.  If the furnace currently works, you can not expect them to pay just because it could go at any time.  Technically, anything could go at any time.

    Ditto...ask for everything except the furnace credit.  As a seller, I'd likely say no to the window thing - big project and if no leaking, isn't critical to be done in the next month, but it might be negotiable ($1k off selling price).  Otherwise, I'd probably try to accomodate the rest - especially the front stoop.

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  • Yaay! We asked for everything but the furnace, thought we did ask for a one year warranty, and they said yes to everything!
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