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Im not really sure where to post this but... (longer desperate post)

I was hoping someone else may be going threw or has went threw potty trainning and can give me some new ideas. Ive read all kinds of posts on The Bump about this but  I feel like ive tried everything and we are getting no where. My son is going on 28 months and we've been introducing the idea since 22 months or so but actually hitting it hard for about 3 weeks now.                                                    

 Alot of people where posting the "3 day" way of trainning so i decided we'd go with that first. He was already familiar with his potty. It had been sitting in our bathroom for around 6 months. He knows the concept. I take him to the potty when he wakes up, before nap, after nap, and before bed at night. I suggest it to him throughout the day at other times. He will go to the potty and pull down his pull ups by himself and sit down but then he continuely gets up and down. He keeps looking in the potty for his wee or poo and can't find it..cause its not there! UGHHH!! Im trying to be patient but im aggrevated because I know how smart he is and cant understand why he is doing this.                                                                           

 Ive offered yogurt covered raisins for his award and he loves them but thats not working. He even knows how to wipe with toliet paper and wash his little hands but wants to do all of this with no actual pottying! Ive tried cacthing him in the act and hurrying to the potty but were always to late, so I'll then place the poo from his pull up to the potty and let him watch me. He will even flush the potty. We are consistant, positive ( I never punish him for not being successful), and completely out of ideas:)                                                                                       

 Am I doing something wrong? Is there anything else I can try? Did I introduce the potty to soon without getting serious about trainning? I even tried big boy undies first thinking he wouldnt like the way being dirty felt and that would be enough to get him to want to go to potty but he still would not come to me until after he had had the accident. I am at a complete loss and on top of it all, my parents are starting to make snide comments pointing toward the possibility that I am not "really" trying hard enough to have him be successful. They cant understand how it could be anything that has to do with my son (because they have put him way up on a pedistal) so, ofcourse it is my "new mommy ignorance". lol.

 This really cant be this difficult, can it? Please. Any suggestion (even negativity if it helps) would be greatly appreciated!

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  • First, once he reaches 2, you no longer need to use months to differentiate his age stages.

     

    Second he is probably not ready yet. the rule of thumb is, it takes longer for boys to mature, with potty training being one of those things.

     

    I would suggest you back off for a good 3 months or so, leaving a small portable potty in the living/play room for him to use at his discretion...and try again at a later date.
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  • He may not be ready. On average, it takes boys until 36 months to get trained. DS is 3 months shy of that and just in the past couple weeks has really made HUGE strides in the area. And more for DC than for me. Be patient and don't get mad. That won't help
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  • Kiddo is 2.5. We tried a little training a few months ago; it wasn't clicking. So we've backed off for now. He's sort of interested in the potty, but is a bit confused about the order of events.

    My philosophy is that when the kid is ready, the training part is easy. If it's too hard, the kid isn't ready yet.

    The only thing that is happening now is that you're getting frustrated. Back off for now. Keep the potty out, read potty books, and try again later.

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  • You son is not at all ready.  Back off for a few months and then try again.  Most little boys I know didn't even start until closer to 3 years old.
  • WOW. Thanks guys! I was just reading so many stories on 'The Bump' about kids learning to potty at average age 2 and was really getting concerned. One woman even said if your child is 3 and not trainned it is time to get him checked by his doctor! It did seem kind of far fecthed that most of there children where potty trainned in 3 days. Several moms called this the "3 day" potty trainning and said it really worked. Maybe some where fibbing just a little. Thank you. Makes me feel better. I guess my parents are just being overexpecting also?
  • I did not potty train my daughter until after she turned 3, when I had some free time and she seemed ready.  I think it helped that I didn't give a crap if anybody else was judging me for not doing it beforehand.  After a few days of mopping up puddles, she was going like a pro.

    My advice would be to not be around your parents until they can keep their snide comments to themselves, and let your son potty-train when he's ready.

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    WOW. Thanks guys! I was just reading so many stories on 'The Bump' about kids learning to potty at average age 2 and was really getting concerned. One woman even said if your child is 3 and not trainned it is time to get him checked by his doctor! It did seem kind of far fecthed that most of there children where potty trainned in 3 days. Several moms called this the "3 day" potty trainning and said it really worked. Maybe some where fibbing just a little. Thank you. Makes me feel better. I guess my parents are just being overexpecting also?

    The way they would tell it, their kids are also reading Shakespearean poetry while on the potty.

    I doesn't matter what you're parents are thinking. Stop caring about it. You'll be much happier.

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  • Ditto pp's--he's not ready.

    Boys take longer to warm up to the idea for some reason--they really don't want to let go of those diapers.  Probably the same reason they hang onto underwear and T shirts until they're holes held together by a few strips of fabric.

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  • Is that no good bum still living with you?

    And psst...it's a lot not alot. And it's I've, not Ive.

    Perhaps the child is not ready for toilet training yet.

    I know of somebody who toilet trained both her kids using the full monty method. She let the kids run naked in the house -- she said it was the only way she could do it.

    I find it hard to believe that the OP is a nurse. Amazing.

  • hi!

    i am actually a very big fan of the 3 day potty manual. Did you actually read it? Bc it sounds like you are doing some things wrong, like using pull ups and randomly taking him to the potty. According to the manual, the pull ups confuse them as they can sometimes go in their pants and sometimes they can't, and randomly taking them to the potty will hamper them recognizing the urge to go = going to the potty. They will eventually get it but it will take them longer typcially.

     

    I would suggest sitting down and reading the manual over. Take a couple weeks off and not train him. then start up again once you have an understanding of the concepts. If you truely follow the manual, I think you will more than likely have quick success. I used it for my son at 2.5 and he got the concept the first day, but he had about one accident a day for about a week and then he was trained. I gave the manual to a good dozen friends and neighbors and all had similar results, around a week to work out the accidents. One neighbor was training her son for over a year, but he was still having accidents. She read the manual, got rid of the pull ups and he was trained a few days later. She was relying too much on the pull ups she said, and she thinks that they confused him with recognizing the urge to go (they are so well absorbed that kids can't even tell when they have an accident.)

    If you talk to our grandparents, most kids were trained back then by the age 2- 2.5. They didn't have diapers back then so i think it was easier to train. Diaper companies want you to use diapers for as long as you can, so they can make more money, so they make them so absorbent, hampering kids ability to recognize the wetness.

    the manual is great and made a ton of sense to me. Its the one parenting thing that I really think I mastered, lol.

    Good luck!! Even if you decide not to use the manual, he will eventually get it. It just takes more time usually from what I have observed. 

  • I was hoping someone else may be going threw or has went threw potty trainning

    Wow.....

    I went through the hole that was in the defensive line and I threw the football.

    And psst. that's has GONE through, not has went threw.

  • "Start potty training at 2 yerars old and it takes a year ... Start potty training at 3 years old and it takes 3 days."

    My MIL said potty training was "too late" at one and and a half years. She was a complete pain.in.the.ass about it and even got my DH paranoid about it. I refused to buckle to her unrealistic expecations. She insisted that her mother trained her youngest brother AT AGE 9 MONTHS. Frankly, it was a relief that she was so absurdly unrealistic.

    You are well within the (very large range of the) norm. Stop beating yourself up about it.

    And really, its about his learning, not your training.

    Things really got better for me when I called it "potty learning" instead of the old fashioned, potty training.

    Ignore your parents.

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  • DD #2 turned 3 in April.  She still has accidents.  Your DS is not ready.  No one I know IRL gets their kids to PT as early as you're trying.
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  • You aren't doing the 3 day method correctly.  You have to go straight to underwear no pullups and watch him every second to catch him in the act.  When he starts to pee, pick him up and run him to the potty.  That was the only way my DD learned.  It didn't really sink in until the 3rd day.  She knew when there was pee or poop in her diaper and knew that she was supposed to put her pee and poop in the potty, but would just sit on the potty and keep checking like your DS wondering why it's not there.

    Lots of kids aren't ready at that age.  It's completely normal if he's not.  I chose to wait until DD was waking up dry and could tell when she had to poop.  She was a little over 2, but I also have heard girls can be ready earlier than boys.  She's the same exact age as your DS and we are still working on pooping in the potty consistently.

    I think the pullups confuse a lot of kids too.

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  • imageTarponMonoxide:

    Is that no good bum still living with you?

    And psst...it's a lot not alot. And it's I've, not Ive.

    Perhaps the child is not ready for toilet training yet.

    I know of somebody who toilet trained both her kids using the full monty method. She let the kids run naked in the house -- she said it was the only way she could do it.

    I find it hard to believe that the OP is a nurse. Amazing.

     

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    imageTarponMonoxide:

    Is that no good bum still living with you?

    And psst...it's a lot not alot. And it's I've, not Ive.

    Perhaps the child is not ready for toilet training yet.

    I know of somebody who toilet trained both her kids using the full monty method. She let the kids run naked in the house -- she said it was the only way she could do it.

    I find it hard to believe that the OP is a nurse. Amazing.

    So I am guessing the answer, then, is no, Not surprised.

     

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  • Boys take longer.  My nephew was almost 4, and my sister just didn't rush him on it, when he was ready he just did it.
  • My DD was doing alll of those things - wipe, flush, etc. no pee. We put her in underwear exclusively (other than naps) and she got the hang of it really quick. put him on the potty every hour or so. she also got presents (beanie babies from an old stash i had) when she peed the first week or so. tell your parents and anyone else to go eff themselves because it's not their business.
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  • Don't push him. He isn't ready and this is not a big deal. Don't stress him out or it will simply take longer and make everyone miserable.
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  • He's not ready.  Stop pressuring him. 

    Wait six months and try again. and tell those judgy family pressurizers to butt out and let you raise your own kid the way you see fit.  this is nuts. 

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  • imagelivinitup:

    "Start potty training at 2 yerars old and it takes a year ... Start potty training at 3 years old and it takes 3 days."

    This is so true.

    Ignore the idiots on the Bump, your son is still very young to be potty trained. My son was 3 before he even showed any interest in using the potty, and would sit in soiled underpants for as long as I let him.

    Any pediatrician worth anything will tell you that the harder you push, the more likely your child is to refuse. They need to be ready on their own terms, and you DON'T want them holding it out of spite and causing health problems doing so (like stretched out/leaky bowels, apparently happens often in kids who hold their poop for too long too often).

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  • If you force it, it will only make it worse.  We tried from age 2 with our first.  We tried on and off for a year.  After we had just stopped stressing, she just decided one day she was potty trained.  Wiped her own butt and everything.  

    With our last, we tried desperately to get her potty trained before she went to preschool.  Yeah, she pretty much walked out the door on the first day of preschool finally potty trained.  

     

    Good luck. 

  • imagelivinitup:

    "Start potty training at 2 yerars old and it takes a year ... Start potty training at 3 years old and it takes 3 days."

    My MIL said potty training was "too late" at one and and a half years. She was a complete pain.in.the.ass about it and even got my DH paranoid about it. I refused to buckle to her unrealistic expecations. She insisted that her mother trained her youngest brother AT AGE 9 MONTHS. Frankly, it was a relief that she was so absurdly unrealistic.

    You are well within the (very large range of the) norm. Stop beating yourself up about it.

    And really, its about his learning, not your training.

    Things really got better for me when I called it "potty learning" instead of the old fashioned, potty training.

    Ignore your parents.

    This a hundred times. My MIL was dying and we were making 14 hour drives to be with her, so PT was back burnered until DS was closer to 3 1/2. I didn't want to make the drive with a newly trained kid. We accomplished bladder in a matter of hours, bowel took 3 days. Seriously.

  • :::is hoping you won't try to teach him grammar and spelling too:::

     

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  • My son turned 3 at the end of July and we just finished potty training him. I did not push it and waited until he was ready (e.g. him telling me that big boys don't use diapers, telling me to change him as soon as he was wet or poppy).

    Since I work outside the home, we did it over a 3-day weekend. We did not leave the house for that whole weekend, moved the potty into the living room, he walked around in this underwear the whole time and I set a timer for him to try the potty every 20 minutes. By doing thr timer, I caught him when he had to go and he figured out what he was supposed to do. He had 4 accidents on Saturday, 2 on Sunday and none on Monday. The poop training happened about a week later. In addition, since he was ready he started waking up dry and was out of diapers at night about 2 weeks later. All told, he was totally out of diapers in less than a month.

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