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As a military family ....

....do you think its the *insert branch here* responsibility to provide your family's emergency leave transportation?

The reason I ask is bc I have a friend on FB who is ranting that her husband's unit is failing her family bc it wont pay for her whole family to fly home for her MIL funeral.

I understand the desire to be home for the funeral but I dont feel it is the unit's responsibility to fund the trip. I know that each branch offers a loan program for emergency funds and I offered that suggestion to her, but her husband has maxed out his amount he can borrow in his current loans.

I wonder if her H worked for a civilian company if she would expect the same treatment?

 Thoughts ?

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Re: As a military family ....

  • No, I don't expect them to pay. This is wild that she thinks they should.
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  • In a short answer... no. They do so much for us already. She and her H need to stop spending beyond what they can afford so they can have the emergency funds to go home for these events. I feel bad for them, but they got themselves into that mess and I hate that they are blaming it on the Military. Ugh.
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  • No, it wouldn't even cross my mind to expect the military to pay for that.
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  • Uh, whaaaat?  I was thinking the exact same thing about a civilian company not providing it either.  This is absolutely not the responsibility of the military or any other company for that matter.  Military families already enjoy benefits above that of so many others, and expectations like these just make me shake my head in disbelief.  Have some sense of personal responsibility, people.
  • The only exception I have heard of is when the family is overseas, but she is in Texas so thats not the case.
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  • I could understand thinking that he should get some time off for bereavement (like most civilian jobs would offer) for his mothers passing...but I disagree with the thinking that the military should fly their entire family home.  That's what emergency funds are for.
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  • imageJunebug060609:
    I could understand thinking that he should get some time off for bereavement (like most civilian jobs would offer) for his mothers passing...but I disagree with the thinking that the military should fly their entire family home.  That's what emergency funds are for.

    Agreed. 

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  • Wow, talk about entitlement. I would never expect that in a million years.
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  • Wow! That's absurd! It sounds like somebody has entitlement issues. For both of their sakes, I hope her DH plans on making the military his career as she is in for a rude awakening when he gets out.

    And, either they've had a rough stretch or they need to learn to manage money better. To have maxed out on emergency relief funds/loans is not good.

    Personally, I'd have a difficult time keeping my opinion to myself. Her rants to her non-military family & friend's may harm people's perceptions of the military. I can see how this could morph into the "military keeping the family from his mother/the kids' grand other's funeral" when that is not the case. What a situation!
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  • I think it's ridiculous she expects this. But I also think it's ridiculous people whine about not getting the Sear's Heroes at Home giftcard too.
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    I think it's ridiculous she expects this. But I also think it's ridiculous people whine about not getting the Sear's Heroes at Home giftcard too.

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  • ...do you think its the *insert branch here* responsibility to provide your family's emergency leave transportation?

    No. I do not.

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    The only exception I have heard of is when the family is overseas, but she is in Texas so thats not the case.

    If he is overseas and has to come home, that should be an exception. But if a family member dies and the funeral is in another country it is not.

     

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    Uh, whaaaat?  I was thinking the exact same thing about a civilian company not providing it either.  This is absolutely not the responsibility of the military or any other company for that matter.  Military families already enjoy benefits above that of so many others, and expectations like these just make me shake my head in disbelief.  Have some sense of personal responsibility, people.

    Exactly.

    That's insane that she feels entitled to something like that. It's military wives like that that keep me rolling my eyes in disgust. I hate being associated with them, because there seem to be so many... 

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  • Absolutely not.  It's up to the service member and their family to pay for their own trip for emergency leave.  If they can't afford for the whole family to go, then maybe only one or two people should go.  But to think it's the unit's responsibility to fork over the money is ridiculous unless of course they are overseas.
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    imageJunebug060609:
    I could understand thinking that he should get some time off for bereavement (like most civilian jobs would offer) for his mothers passing...but I disagree with the thinking that the military should fly their entire family home.  That's what emergency funds are for.

    Agreed. 

    His unit did grant him leave, but apparently that is not enough in his wife's eyes.

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  • imageSmudges*Mom:
    Wow! That's absurd! It sounds like somebody has entitlement issues. For both of their sakes, I hope her DH plans on making the military his career as she is in for a rude awakening when he gets out.

    And, either they've had a rough stretch or they need to learn to manage money better. To have maxed out on emergency relief funds/loans is not good.

    Personally, I'd have a difficult time keeping my opinion to myself. Her rants to her non-military family & friend's may harm people's perceptions of the military. I can see how this could morph into the "military keeping the family from his mother/the kids' grand other's funeral" when that is not the case. What a situation!

    I'm having a hard time not saying anything, but because of the funeral factor I dont want to seem like I am causing drama by "calling her out" on fb. I Have made comments to her before about what she has posted, and it didnt go well. 

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  • imageJunebug060609:
    That's what emergency funds are for.

     

    I agree that a savings account is a must for every family and can help out in situations like these.

    It just kills me that she is blasting the military all over her fb posts and people are agreeing with her. I cant be sympathetic to the situation at all because 1. its not your employers responsibility to pay for transportation 2. just last month she was talking about her wonderful family vacation & the month prior announced on fb she had to file for bankruptcy.

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    The only exception I have heard of is when the family is overseas, but she is in Texas so thats not the case.

    If he is overseas and has to come home, that should be an exception. But if a family member dies and the funeral is in another country it is not.

     

    She said when they were stationed in Hawaii (yes HI is overseas) his unit paid for them to fly home for a family emergency. I had to explain to her that a space available flight through the Air Force is not paid for by the unit. 

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  • image*HiS ChAmAoLe GiRL*:
    imageGhostMonkey:

    image*HiS ChAmAoLe GiRL*:
    The only exception I have heard of is when the family is overseas, but she is in Texas so thats not the case.

    If he is overseas and has to come home, that should be an exception. But if a family member dies and the funeral is in another country it is not.

     

    She said when they were stationed in Hawaii (yes HI is overseas) his unit paid for them to fly home for a family emergency. I had to explain to her that a space available flight through the Air Force is not paid for by the unit. 

    Aww. Does she have a bunch of stuff that says "(insert branch here) wife: The toughest job in the military"?

    I bet she does.

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    image*HiS ChAmAoLe GiRL*:
    The only exception I have heard of is when the family is overseas, but she is in Texas so thats not the case.

    If he is overseas and has to come home, that should be an exception. But if a family member dies and the funeral is in another country it is not.

     

    She said when they were stationed in Hawaii (yes HI is overseas) his unit paid for them to fly home for a family emergency. I had to explain to her that a space available flight through the Air Force is not paid for by the unit. 

    Aww. Does she have a bunch of stuff that says "(insert branch here) wife: The toughest job in the military"?

    I bet she does.

    As a matter of fact, she DOES! lol

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  • imageJunebug060609:
    I could understand thinking that he should get some time off for bereavement (like most civilian jobs would offer) for his mothers passing...but I disagree with the thinking that the military should fly their entire family home.  That's what emergency funds are for.

    I agree with this! I work at a university and would never think of asking them to pay for my travel.  I mean that is crazy and not to mention, I would hate to get laughed at by the HR department for that request.

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  • Heck no it shouldn't be paid for, even if they are overseas. We are stationed overseas, and while we haven't personally experienced a family death, good friends of ours did. The military didn't pay for them to go home. They gave him time off (which I would expect) and he moved up in category for a space a flight, but they weren't going to pay for a commercial ticket home. That's just crazy to think they would!
  • Do I expect it? No. Did I know a program like that existed? No, not until a death happened.

    We are overseas and when my brother passed away we had planned on sending me right away which would have been close to $6,000 for me and another $5500 for my husband who was to leave a few days after me. We had savings to cover this and were about to punch in our CC when we got a call. What I didn't know (and I'm glad they called when they did) was his command had been booking a flights for both of us. They received the RC message as well since my mom told them where H worked. Apparently his unit has a line in their budget for these types of cases (loss of parent, sibling or child of you or your spouse). I was overwhelmed with their generosity and I would never expect it no matter where we are stationed. 

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  • No. Not their responsibility. She's a jackass.
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