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an adjustment to living at home.

I am having a hard time around here with paying our bills.  It sounds so odd but in the NL everything was steam lined.  You got an email with your bill from all your ammenities the same week (cable, electricity, etc etc etc) and you just went online to your bank and you pushed a few buttons and viola!  PAID!  Bills done for the month.

Here we have 700 different bills for 400 services and some I pay with check, some automatically deduct and some I pay online.  In the past two months, I have double paid our car payment, cable bill, and not paid our trash bill at all (yeah, that one sucked when they cancelled our service for non-payment).

I wish the banking systems would adopt the NL banking systems. 

Re: an adjustment to living at home.

  • I agree, it's so much easier here. For our bills we still have in the US I make a list every month and cross it off when I pay it, then I don't have to double check 50 websites to see if I did. Good luck!
  • I agree as well.  Why hasn't the US adopted the online bill payment more?  

    I was shocked by a post on MM about a girl waiting for her rent check to be cashed.   Come on USA. 

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  • I've got everything set up to pay online (other than one medical bill we got recently that only allowed you to pay by check, annoying) BUT for our town stuff and medical bills I don't get an online bill, it comes in the mail, so I have to sit down the second I open it and schedule the payment or I'll forget.
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    I wish the banking systems would adopt the NL banking systems. 

    You mean, enter the 21st century?

    WORD. 

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  • imageNCV2:

    I agree as well.  Why hasn't the US adopted the online bill payment more?  

    I was shocked by a post on MM about a girl waiting for her rent check to be cashed.   Come on USA. 

    I'm confused. How else would one pay their rent? I mean if you rent from a huge management company maybe they'd accept some other method but when you rent from an individual isn't it basically cash or a check?
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    imageNCV2:

    I agree as well.  Why hasn't the US adopted the online bill payment more?  

    I was shocked by a post on MM about a girl waiting for her rent check to be cashed.   Come on USA. 

    I'm confused. How else would one pay their rent? I mean if you rent from a huge management company maybe they'd accept some other method but when you rent from an individual isn't it basically cash or a check?

    Nope - it's electronic transfer / direct debit here. All Americans are laughed at when they first arrive and ask about checks. They don't exist here anymore.  Banking is far more secure and easier here. I love the ABN/AMRO iPhone app. - I use it for almost everything. 

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    imageMrsBini10:
    imageNCV2:

    I agree as well.  Why hasn't the US adopted the online bill payment more?  

    I was shocked by a post on MM about a girl waiting for her rent check to be cashed.   Come on USA. 

    I'm confused. How else would one pay their rent? I mean if you rent from a huge management company maybe they'd accept some other method but when you rent from an individual isn't it basically cash or a check?

    Nope - it's electronic transfer / direct debit here. All Americans are laughed at when they first arrive and ask about checks. They don't exist here anymore.  Banking is far more secure and easier here. I love the ABN/AMRO iPhone app. - I use it for almost everything. 

    I lived in a world where checks didn't exist.

    We are supposed to have ONE BILL from Verizon for our cell phones, internet, cable, home phone, etc.  We get three separate bills a month that are due at three separate times.  I need to call them and find out how the hell that is one bill.

  • It appears I just haven't lived in the right places to enjoy this super-easy bill paying system. The idea of paying someone like my landlord or whatever with an electronic transfer seems odd to me. Do you have to get all their bank info and enter it into the site to pay them? If I want to pay a friend back for picking me up something at the store and I don't have cash do they have to write down all their bank info for me? I mean for recurring payments it would totally be easier but for random payments here and there it seems like more work than a check.
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    It appears I just haven't lived in the right places to enjoy this super-easy bill paying system. The idea of paying someone like my landlord or whatever with an electronic transfer seems odd to me. Do you have to get all their bank info and enter it into the site to pay them? If I want to pay a friend back for picking me up something at the store and I don't have cash do they have to write down all their bank info for me? I mean for recurring payments it would totally be easier but for random payments here and there it seems like more work than a check.

    It takes three clicks on the computer.  It would take more steps to pull out your checkbook from your wallet, write the check, sign the check and give it to your friend.  It is also automatic.  You could do it before your friend bought you something.  "Hey Mrs.Bini I'm at the store and see those thing-a-ma-whatsits you want on sale for $10.  Should I get you one?"  You could send her the money instantly.

    It's amazing.  All you need is the person's code.  Mine was 8 numbers I think.  Easier to remember than a phone number.  You log into your bank account, click a button or two and it's done!

  • Yeah, the US' stubborn refusal to adopt the bank transfer method annoys me to no end. Then again, given the amount of times I've seen people on the Nest assume that if you transfer money from your bank account to someone else's they will somehow have the ability to clean you out makes me slightly understand it. Americans as a whole seem not to understand the system and because of that they're scared of it. Also, for some reason US banks charge fees out the wazoo to do a bank transfer, so it's not really cost effective.
  • I think you need to look a little deeper into this because all of my bills are automatic and I don't receive any paper statements. Even the tiny city I live in lets me pay water and sewage via automatic withdrawal. I never even see my AT&T bills. It goes directly to my bank and the bank bill pays it for me.
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  • Yep, same thing here.  My family could not believe I did not have a check book in Oz.  I don't even know anyone who has one.

    Even when we rented we just paid our rent by direct deposit.

    I am going to see Mary Poppins in Nov with some family friends, I just deposited money for the ticket into my friends account.  Too easy.  

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  • Now in this same vein, I REALLY don't get the people I work with who have the option to use direct deposit for their paychecks and choose not to. It just seems like a no brainer to me.
  • My CU in the states has had online bill pay for years.  I'd definately look into it a bit more.

    And you think people in the US are afraid of electronic banking? ... my SIL & BIL still go to the Post Office to pay their bills, in cash, in person because they don't trust the BPay system or the automatic debit options.

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  • Sorry you are having a rough time with that part.

    We paid bills online in the U.S. and don't have that overseas. In Italy I paid the rent in cash and in person to the landlord, the utilities were paid at the post office or a tabacchi. Here in Bahrain we pay the rent in cash to the landlord. Gas for my kitchen I pay in person when the drop it off. Our internet we go to the vendor kiosk but at least they have a self-service machine we can pay by credit card. Drinking water we pay per bottle when they drop it off.

    Our Italian landlord tried to have us just deposit the rent into his bank. I had to do it in person. Guess what one of the reasons why the bank wouldn't take my money? I was just the woman and my husband was supposed to be handling the money. Fun times.

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    Our Italian landlord tried to have us just deposit the rent into his bank. I had to do it in person. Guess what one of the reasons why the bank wouldn't take my money? I was just the woman and my husband was supposed to be handling the money. Fun times.

    I'm giggling while I picture this scene playing out.  I'm assuming it did not end well?

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  • so wait when i move to the US im not gonna be able to pay all my bills by direct debit??

    i havent owned a cheque book in about 10 years - setting up a direct debit is just so much easier and i never have to worry or wonder if ive paid on time. Its done automatically done for me.

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    imageFayeD:

    Our Italian landlord tried to have us just deposit the rent into his bank. I had to do it in person. Guess what one of the reasons why the bank wouldn't take my money? I was just the woman and my husband was supposed to be handling the money. Fun times.

    I'm giggling while I picture this scene playing out.  I'm assuming it did not end well?

    Had to call the translator, who I'm sure gave him an earful. Translator ultimately told me to just leave because the bank people were too stupid to work with. Kinda wish I could have heard and understood the conversation.

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  • imageLMBCI:

    so wait when i move to the US im not gonna be able to pay all my bills by direct debit??

    i havent owned a cheque book in about 10 years - setting up a direct debit is just so much easier and i never have to worry or wonder if ive paid on time. Its done automatically done for me.

    Larger companies do it. We pay for cable, Internet, gas, electric and a couple other things automatically. You set it up with each company, not through the bank. It's smaller entities that don't do it this way like landlords or local companies (I had to pay for our heating oil in cash, in person, but we only need to buy it once a year). You will need a checkbook here, but other than our rent we only use it occasionally, like a couple times a month.
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    I think you need to look a little deeper into this because all of my bills are automatic and I don't receive any paper statements. Even the tiny city I live in lets me pay water and sewage via automatic withdrawal. I never even see my AT&T bills. It goes directly to my bank and the bank bill pays it for me.

    I agree with this. We pay virtually nothing by check, save maybe medical bills and even our dr is changing to an online bill pay 

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  • Switzerland is very easy too, you just pay everything, one time a month at the post office. 

    I remember my mom spending hours on "bill night" paying for things either online or via check. She had a big checklist to make sure everything was covered.  

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    Switzerland is very easy too, you just pay everything, one time a month at the post office. 

    I remember my mom spending hours on "bill night" paying for things either online or via check. She had a big checklist to make sure everything was covered.  

    We never even bothered going to the post.  We just had all invoices sent directly to our current bank account and paid them as they came in--although all recurring bills were set to just pay automatically.  Having to do nothing was glorious.

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  • My US bank just informed me I am only allowed to move money from checking to savings 4 times a billing cycle.  Why is that?
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    My US bank just informed me I am only allowed to move money from checking to savings 4 times a billing cycle.  Why is that?
    Because you need a new bank.  That sounds like a dumb rule.

    We have an ING savings account and a TD bank checking account.  I can move money back and forth between them as many times as I want, as much or little as I want. No fees involved.

  • imageMrsBini10:
    imageNCV2:

    I agree as well.  Why hasn't the US adopted the online bill payment more?  

    I was shocked by a post on MM about a girl waiting for her rent check to be cashed.   Come on USA. 

    I'm confused. How else would one pay their rent? I mean if you rent from a huge management company maybe they'd accept some other method but when you rent from an individual isn't it basically cash or a check?

    No, elsewhere you can do a direct automatic debit to their account. I was doing it that way with a private landlord in 1997. And having my pay and welfare direct deposited. And sending text messages.

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    imageTotZiens:
    My US bank just informed me I am only allowed to move money from checking to savings 4 times a billing cycle.  Why is that?
    Because you need a new bank.  That sounds like a dumb rule.

    We have an ING savings account and a TD bank checking account.  I can move money back and forth between them as many times as I want, as much or little as I want. No fees involved.

    I have a military credit union and they claim it is a federal law.  Whatever.  My interest rate on my CC is 4% and all our insurance is through them for a very good rate.  I will eat that for the other savings!

  • imageTotZiens:
    imageMrsBini10:

    imageTotZiens:
    My US bank just informed me I am only allowed to move money from checking to savings 4 times a billing cycle.  Why is that?
    Because you need a new bank.  That sounds like a dumb rule.

    We have an ING savings account and a TD bank checking account.  I can move money back and forth between them as many times as I want, as much or little as I want. No fees involved.

    I have a military credit union and they claim it is a federal law.  Whatever.  My interest rate on my CC is 4% and all our insurance is through them for a very good rate.  I will eat that for the other savings!

    I've had banks that put limits on that. If it is a law, it's specific to the CU, because I've also had banks that didn't have limits. I think in the case of my banks, it was just a way to charge more fees (I could do it more than four times, but then I had to pay), to encourage me to accidentally end up with overdraft fees for not moving more money up front, and to save on interest payments by forcing me to keep more money in the checking instead of the savings.

    US banks really do astonish me. And they go on and on about "free checking" and other "free" banking services, which are nice, but honestly, I'd rather use my bank here, where I have to pay $20/yr in admin for my debit card, but they pay me $100/yr in interest. Compared to the US, where the debit card would be free, but the interest is only $15/yr.

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