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I don't know if this is unpopular or not, but...
I do not think Troy Davis should have been executed last night. I don't know if he was truly innocent or if he was guilty, but regardless there was a lot of reasonable doubt that had been established--more than enough I think to stay an execution.
It's situations like this that make me against the death penalty. If we could guarantee the guilt of every single person put to death, I would not have a problem with it. But there's a good possibility that our justice system killed the wrong man last night.
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I was planning to post about the same thing. I am sick over this execution. I have always been opposed to the death penalty, but between this case and the execution of Cameron Todd Willingham in Texas, I am ready to get my butt out there with the ACLU and Oklahoma Coalition to Abolish the Death Penalty and try my best to help put an end to the death penalty in this country.
One of my questions in the spotlight was about the death penalty. I answered 'for it', but it's more than just black and white. I'm for it, like you said, if there is no reasonable doubt. And, honestly, yesterday was the first time I've heard about this (I've been so busy that I haven't watched to news or read the paper the past few days), so I don't know a lot about it other than he wanted to take a lie-detector test and was declined.
There was no forensic evidence linking Davis to the crime. 7 of the 9 witnesses against him recanted, and one of the two remaining witnesses is largely suspected of being the actual killer.
See, what you posted above is something that has bothered me for years. I'm against the death penalty, and I have been ever since I learned there have been multiple people later proven innocent who were put to death, with countless more being suspected of being innocent. I can't agree with a system that is flawed enough to allow innocent people to die. It's bad enough that many innocent people are in prison.
But on the other side of it, as much as I am against the death penalty, I can't deny that sometimes I'm happy: I was happy when Bin Laden died (even though that wasn't a "traditional" execution). As much as I want to be a person that says, "No one deserves to die, and an eye for an eye is wrong," I can't deny that in occasional instances, deep down I am glad of it.
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I have never been a strong supporter of the death penalty and this furthers my stance.
I am sickened by the lack of empathy from people in the audience of the GOP debate a few weeks ago. When Paul was prompted for more explanation on his stance concerning (hypothetical) a sick man with no insurance possibly dying from an illness, some people in the audience shouted "yeah" to if we should let him die and others applauded. I felt physically sick.
Honest question here: So do think Timothy McVeigh should not have died for what he did?
I can understand both sides of this argument.Our justice system fails a lot of the time (Davis I believe is a great example), but there have been instances where truely horrible and cruel people have deserved to die for their crimes. I believe that the justice system does needs a revamping and hopefully something like the Davis case and open their eyes and see this.
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This really made me sad that people can not see beyond themselves and have compassion.
I do not believe McVeigh should have been executed. I am with Bud Welch, an anti-death penalty activist who lost his daughter in the Murrah bombing. He said, "I was opposed to the death penalty all my life until my daughter Julie Marie was killed in the Oklahoma City bombing. For many months after the bombing I could have killed Timothy McVeigh myself. Temporary insanity is real, and I have lived it. You can?t think of enough adjectives to describe the rage, revenge, and hate I felt. But after time, I was able to examine my conscience, and I realized that if McVeigh is put to death, it won?t help me in the healing process. People talk about executions bringing closure. But how can there be closure when my little girl is never coming back. I finally realized that the death penalty is all about revenge and hate, and revenge and hate are why Julie Marie and 167 others are dead."
I 100% agree with you. Although I'm sure our reasoning is a bit different, but I don't think the death penalty should ever be considered.
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I'm also conflicted on my opinion on the death penalty. Some of these people did horrific things, but who are we to take their lives in return? Is killing them worth "accidentally" putting a few people who were actually innocent to death too? At a minimum, I believe it should very very very sparingly be applied, and only in cases without any uncertainty of the person's guilt.
My UO is how the term "pro-life" has been taken over to mean "anti-abortion." I get the impression that too many people only care about protecting life until birth, and not about what happens to the people after they're born. What about protecting children from an abusive parent/boyfriend/etc? Making sure people are fed? Adequate medical care? Spending more money researching diseases? Aren't these all forms of being pro-life? How can some people claim to be pro-life and support the death penalty- they're saying life is only worthy when we judge it to be so?
This is disappointing. I've been waiting to see it thinking it was going to be so funny.
That's unfortunate, tj. I loved Bridesmaids, but I felt very let down when H and I went to see The Hangover. Sucks to be disappointed!