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I must stop lurking on MM

because I just read a post where the OP has $32k in savings and now I feel like a LOSER.  <insert crying emoticon>
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  • But I bet you have cable TV, a cell phone, and all sorts of other personal luxuries that none of them seem to have. :)

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  • I rarely go on that site and I am a pretty good at finances. There are times that it can be extreme and or unreal. I go with the latter on most of that.
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  • Um, you know, it made me feel like a loser at first too but - everyone's situations are different.  One girl was going on and on about having $100k saved before the age of 30 - but she lives with her parents.  Well, hell, I could have saved $100k if I lived with my parents my entire 20s as well.  And really? Is that something worth bragging about?

    Those that have a ton in savings usually graduated college between the ages of 22 - 23 and got married right away. The dual income factor is huge.  My BFF and her hubby have a ton of savings - they got married at 22 and graduated college at 21.  I, on the other hand, had a single income until I was 30 years old - but I bought my first house at 22. Its all relative.

    At the same time, a lot of those girls over there are in their mid to early 30s.

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    But I bet you have cable TV, a cell phone, and all sorts of other personal luxuries that none of them seem to have. :)

    But also, according to multiple posts last week, they all carry $2k bags.

  • DH can always tell when I've been lurking there because I get all panicky about how we're not putting something like 60% of our income in retirement and another 20% in savings. Embarrassed
  • Yep, MM makes me feel like a loser, too.

    I recently quit lurking a lot of boards. MM was making me feel broke. D&R was making me feel like my house was in need of decorating. F&B was making me feel like I needed to go on a huge shopping spree. The only board I lurk now is H&F, and only because it makes me feel like eating healthier and exercising, which are a lot cheaper lol.


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    DH can always tell when I've been lurking there because I get all panicky about how we're not putting something like 60% of our income in retirement and another 20% in savings. Embarrassed

    Also, when you consider the ages of the peeps on the board, also consider the income levels - I think 80% of them have incomes above $250k.

    Maybe I just justify myself too much but - I try to think about the stuff I DO have - when our house is completed (by next summer!) we will have paid CASH for nearly six figures of renovations and have our dream home - not to mention - because the real estate market here is so awesome - we will be waaaaaay in the money on our house (most on MM are out of the money on their homes) and most importantly WE HAVE A LIFE.  I am not going to cut coupons to eat Hamburger Helper every night and god damn it, I am taking four vacations a year. Period.  There's no guarantee that you will live to enjoy that 80% of retirement savings.  Everyone needs to find what makes them happy and I am super happy so be it.

    You seem super happy too so....go home and eat expensive cheese and drink way expensive wine. Your heart and tummy will thank you.

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    Um, you know, it made me feel like a loser at first too but - everyone's situations are different.  One girl was going on and on about having $100k saved before the age of 30 - but she lives with her parents.  Well, hell, I could have saved $100k if I lived with my parents my entire 20s as well.  And really? Is that something worth bragging about?

    Those that have a ton in savings usually graduated college between the ages of 22 - 23 and got married right away. The dual income factor is huge.  My BFF and her hubby have a ton of savings - they got married at 22 and graduated college at 21.  I, on the other hand, had a single income until I was 30 years old - but I bought my first house at 22. Its all relative.

    At the same time, a lot of those girls over there are in their mid to early 30s.

    Ah, the voice of reason :).  This makes sense--- I spent the majority of my 20's single with one income.  If I'd gotten married, become part of a dual income household, and started saving at 22 instead of at 26 then our savings account would probably look quite different.... 
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    Yep, MM makes me feel like a loser, too.

    I recently quit lurking a lot of boards. MM was making me feel broke. D&R was making me feel like my house was in need of decorating. F&B was making me feel like I needed to go on a huge shopping spree. The only board I lurk now is H&F, and only because it makes me feel like eating healthier and exercising, which are a lot cheaper lol.

    This literally made me LOL!  I feel the same way about D&R and F&B!  I posted some on H&F last year and I've just started lurking there again.  H&F makes me feel like I should go run a marathon, but I know that's not gonna happen so I focus on the healthy eating and WW tips I find there Wink.
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    image+PuppyWuppy+:

    Um, you know, it made me feel like a loser at first too but - everyone's situations are different.  One girl was going on and on about having $100k saved before the age of 30 - but she lives with her parents.  Well, hell, I could have saved $100k if I lived with my parents my entire 20s as well.  And really? Is that something worth bragging about?

    Those that have a ton in savings usually graduated college between the ages of 22 - 23 and got married right away. The dual income factor is huge.  My BFF and her hubby have a ton of savings - they got married at 22 and graduated college at 21.  I, on the other hand, had a single income until I was 30 years old - but I bought my first house at 22. Its all relative.

    At the same time, a lot of those girls over there are in their mid to early 30s.

    Ah, the voice of reason :).  This makes sense--- I spent the majority of my 20's single with one income.  If I'd gotten married, become part of a dual income household, and started saving at 22 instead of at 26 then our savings account would probably look quite different.... 

    It makes a HUGE difference - and an even bigger difference if you supported someone in school on one income.  That, btw, is something else I am extremely proud of. 

    As far as D&R some of the stuff on there I am like WTF.  A lot of the befores are definitely better than the afters. Yikes!

  • I think a lot of the people on the MM pad some things to make it seem like they're doing better than they really are. There are some that make excellent money and probably aren't exaggerating their cash, but my guess is that most don't actually have as much as they say they do.

    I agree with Puppy...there has to be a happy medium when it comes to saving and living life.  If all you're doing is sacrificing and you die tomorrow--what good is all of that cash that you've stashed?  Sometimes enjoying life (within reason, of course) is much more advantageous than having $XX in the bank. 

    As long as you can handle minor emergencies and don't have to run to mommy and daddy for money, you're doing great!

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  • imagekayleeb:

    Yep, MM makes me feel like a loser, too.

    I recently quit lurking a lot of boards. MM was making me feel broke. D&R was making me feel like my house was in need of decorating. F&B was making me feel like I needed to go on a huge shopping spree. The only board I lurk now is H&F, and only because it makes me feel like eating healthier and exercising, which are a lot cheaper lol.

    Bahahaha! This is so true Kaylee. I feel the same way!

  • imagekayleeb:

    Yep, MM makes me feel like a loser, too.

    I recently quit lurking a lot of boards. MM was making me feel broke. D&R was making me feel like my house was in need of decorating. F&B was making me feel like I needed to go on a huge shopping spree. The only board I lurk now is H&F, and only because it makes me feel like eating healthier and exercising, which are a lot cheaper lol.

    Hahaha! I felt exactly the same way!!

  • imagegingerfeathers:

    But I bet you have cable TV, a cell phone, and all sorts of other personal luxuries that none of them seem to have. :)

    Yes, they are all about cutting cable and cell phones.

  • imageostatekris05:
    imagegingerfeathers:

    But I bet you have cable TV, a cell phone, and all sorts of other personal luxuries that none of them seem to have. :)

    Yes, they are all about cutting cable and cell phones.

    My favorite MM post EVER was a girl that posted about how many direct tv satellites she saw when she drove by Section 8 housing. People were all over her about that - "Poor people need to watch t.v. too" crap like that.  Yet EVERY TIME someone posts their budget, the first thing those girls criticize are cable and cell phone expenses.  I found that post horrifyingly ironic.

  • imagedrillerswife:
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    Um, you know, it made me feel like a loser at first too but - everyone's situations are different.  One girl was going on and on about having $100k saved before the age of 30 - but she lives with her parents.  Well, hell, I could have saved $100k if I lived with my parents my entire 20s as well.  And really? Is that something worth bragging about?

    Those that have a ton in savings usually graduated college between the ages of 22 - 23 and got married right away. The dual income factor is huge.  My BFF and her hubby have a ton of savings - they got married at 22 and graduated college at 21.  I, on the other hand, had a single income until I was 30 years old - but I bought my first house at 22. Its all relative.

    At the same time, a lot of those girls over there are in their mid to early 30s.

    Ah, the voice of reason :).  This makes sense--- I spent the majority of my 20's single with one income.  If I'd gotten married, become part of a dual income household, and started saving at 22 instead of at 26 then our savings account would probably look quite different.... 

    Yes! I cannot look over there some days. We got married young, but we've never been dual income due to DH always being in school. Our financial status looks a lot different than my friends who graduated at 22, got married, and started working right away. We've been living off one teacher's salary for nearly four years.

    I figure we'll catch up sometime in our mid to late 30's. 

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  • I don't actually read the financial posts on MM, just the off-topic ones. Evidently they all hate everybody else's shoes.


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    I think a lot of the people on the MM pad some things to make it seem like they're doing better than they really are. There are some that make excellent money and probably aren't exaggerating their cash, but my guess is that most don't actually have as much as they say they do.

    I agree with Puppy...there has to be a happy medium when it comes to saving and living life.  If all you're doing is sacrificing and you die tomorrow--what good is all of that cash that you've stashed?  Sometimes enjoying life (within reason, of course) is much more advantageous than having $XX in the bank. 

    As long as you can handle minor emergencies and don't have to run to mommy and daddy for money, you're doing great!

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  • image+PuppyWuppy+:

    image5thOfJuly:
    DH can always tell when I've been lurking there because I get all panicky about how we're not putting something like 60% of our income in retirement and another 20% in savings. Embarrassed

    Also, when you consider the ages of the peeps on the board, also consider the income levels - I think 80% of them have incomes above $250k.

    Maybe I just justify myself too much but - I try to think about the stuff I DO have - when our house is completed (by next summer!) we will have paid CASH for nearly six figures of renovations and have our dream home - not to mention - because the real estate market here is so awesome - we will be waaaaaay in the money on our house (most on MM are out of the money on their homes) and most importantly WE HAVE A LIFE.  I am not going to cut coupons to eat Hamburger Helper every night and god damn it, I am taking four vacations a year. Period.  There's no guarantee that you will live to enjoy that 80% of retirement savings.  Everyone needs to find what makes them happy and I am super happy so be it.

    You seem super happy too so....go home and eat expensive cheese and drink way expensive wine. Your heart and tummy will thank you.

    Expensive cheese and $12 wine---I do have to be MM after all...and by the time we crack open that second bottle we usually don't know the difference Stick out tongue

    I think it's one of my weird self-competitive things.  Finances are something we could ALWAYS do better at, especially since we didn't both have "real" jobs until we were 29 for DH and 30 for me, so I will always want to do better. Of course, I also want to live in a certain neighborhood and travel and eat whatever I want, too, so something has to give :)

  • Money isn't anything if you aren't enjoying it and have a purpose for it. I have always been a big money saver and H has gotten me to spend it more and enjoy things. I still get anxious about spending money.

     Some people on MM are older or live in HCOL areas.

  • I also think when they say "savings" they sometimes mean "all assets that I don't currently owe a debt against" so they include their 401k, IRAs, any stocks or bonds, AND cash savings. I don't think $32k in a 401k is all that impressive. I have more than that and I'm not exactly a model for financial management.

    ET: the correct dollar amount in the OP

  • Something else to consider - a lot of those girls on MM have worked at the same place for most of their careers - and include their 401k match (which is most likely pretty substantial) when they discuss their savings. 

    I have yet to benefit from a 401k match and given my career path, I probably never will and DH doesn't even have a 401k offered to him.  We just suck all around.

     

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