Mom's or those who are pregnant

ErikandAfton · October 2011

I have a question. A friend who is pregnant said she can't have honey while pregnant because its bad for the baby. I can't find any reliable sources that verify this, however I know that infants and young children can't because of botulism. My science self says that if there was any botulism in the honey a mother ate that it would be killed by stomach acid before it even made its way into the fetus blood stream. Can you tell me what your doctor's have said about that? I'm not trying to prove anyone wrong I just really am curious.

SoftSpot · October 2011

I think the debate is similar to the lunchmeat debate. My doc says it's ok.

ErikandAfton · October 2011

Lace&Josh:
I think the debate is similar to the lunchmeat debate. My doc says it's ok.

Okay. Thank you.

K&C2005 · October 2011

I have never heard of that for pregnant women, I was never told I should not eat honey while pregnant.

Ilumine · October 2011

I have never heard the "no honey" during pregnancy thing. Given that most commercial honey has been pasturized just like milk, I would not be that worried about it.

DowagerCountessofNJ · October 2011

Honey is totally fine for mom, pregnant or breastfeeding. I was told by my doctor that the lunch meat thing is so blown out of proportion it's not even funny. She said as long as the lunch meat is from a reputable store and you refrigerate it properly you'll be fine. I believe everything should be eaten in moderation.

Kendraish · October 2011

I have actually never heard of this one and I read a ton of books when I as PG.

jaksmom8808 · October 2011

Honey is fine. The lunch meat thing is fine it's actually the hot dogs due to nitrates. The nitrates can cause preterm labor.

AF_EOD_wife · October 2011

I've never heard of that. I have a nice mug of lemon zinger tea with honey nearly every night. So far, so good.

KCD053109 · October 2011

Never heard of not having honey while PG. And I've been enjoying it on my toast for quite awhile now without any fears.

You're right though about children not suppose to have children before the age of 1 due to the increased odds of allergies.

StarJay · October 2011

I never heard not to eat it while pregnant, either. In fact it was one of my biggest cravings, so I ate a LOT of honey.

I have a s/o question for other moms: Is it okay for LO to have honey if it's been baked in something? I have a few recipes that use honey instead of a cane sugar for sweetening that I make at Christmas...

DowagerCountessofNJ · October 2011

StarJay:
I never heard not to eat it while pregnant, either. In fact it was one of my biggest cravings, so I ate a LOT of honey.

I have a s/o question for other moms: Is it okay for LO to have honey if it's been baked in something? I have a few recipes that use honey instead of a cane sugar for sweetening that I make at Christmas...

I would think if the honey is baked it would be okay but I'd double check with his doctor just to be on the safe side.

MrsOjoButtons · October 2011

jaksmom8808:
Honey is fine. The lunch meat thing is fine it's actually the hot dogs due to nitrates. The nitrates can cause preterm labor.

Then I'm staying away from vegetables, not hot dogs, when I get KU.

"It has been reported that people normally consume more nitrates from their vegetable intake than from the cured meat products they eat. Spinach, beets, radishes, celery, and cabbages are among the vegetables that generally contain very high concentrations of nitrates (J. Food Sci., 52:1632). The nitrate content of vegetables is affected by maturity, soil conditions, fertilizer, variety, etc. It has been estimated that 10 percent of the human exposure to nitrite in the digestive tract comes from cured meats and 90 percent comes from vegetables and other sources. Nitrates can be reduced to nitrites by certain microorganisms present in foods and in the gastrointestinal tract. This has resulted in nitrite toxicity in infants fed vegetables with a high nitrate level. No evidence currently exists implicating nitrite itself as a carcinogen.

To obtain 22 milligrams of sodium nitrite per kilogram of body weight (a lethal dose), a 154-pound adult would have to consume, at once, 18.57 pounds of cured meat product containing 200 ppm sodium nitrite (because nitrite is rapidly converted to nitric oxide during the curing process, the 18.57 pound figure should be tripled at least). Even if a person could eat that amount of cured meat, salt, not nitrite, probably would be the toxic factor." Source

KCD053109 · October 2011

MrsOjoButtons:
jaksmom8808:
Honey is fine. The lunch meat thing is fine it's actually the hot dogs due to nitrates. The nitrates can cause preterm labor.

Then I'm staying away from vegetables, not hot dogs, when I get KU.

"It has been reported that people normally consume more nitrates from their vegetable intake than from the cured meat products they eat. Spinach, beets, radishes, celery, and cabbages are among the vegetables that generally contain very high concentrations of nitrates (J. Food Sci., 52:1632). The nitrate content of vegetables is affected by maturity, soil conditions, fertilizer, variety, etc. It has been estimated that 10 percent of the human exposure to nitrite in the digestive tract comes from cured meats and 90 percent comes from vegetables and other sources. Nitrates can be reduced to nitrites by certain microorganisms present in foods and in the gastrointestinal tract. This has resulted in nitrite toxicity in infants fed vegetables with a high nitrate level. No evidence currently exists implicating nitrite itself as a carcinogen.

To obtain 22 milligrams of sodium nitrite per kilogram of body weight (a lethal dose), a 154-pound adult would have to consume, at once, 18.57 pounds of cured meat product containing 200 ppm sodium nitrite (because nitrite is rapidly converted to nitric oxide during the curing process, the 18.57 pound figure should be tripled at least). Even if a person could eat that amount of cured meat, salt, not nitrite, probably would be the toxic factor." Source

That is extremely fascinating. Thank you very much for sharing this information.

DowagerCountessofNJ · October 2011

MrsOjoButtons:
jaksmom8808:
Honey is fine. The lunch meat thing is fine it's actually the hot dogs due to nitrates. The nitrates can cause preterm labor.

Then I'm staying away from vegetables, not hot dogs, when I get KU.

"It has been reported that people normally consume more nitrates from their vegetable intake than from the cured meat products they eat. Spinach, beets, radishes, celery, and cabbages are among the vegetables that generally contain very high concentrations of nitrates (J. Food Sci., 52:1632). The nitrate content of vegetables is affected by maturity, soil conditions, fertilizer, variety, etc. It has been estimated that 10 percent of the human exposure to nitrite in the digestive tract comes from cured meats and 90 percent comes from vegetables and other sources. Nitrates can be reduced to nitrites by certain microorganisms present in foods and in the gastrointestinal tract. This has resulted in nitrite toxicity in infants fed vegetables with a high nitrate level. No evidence currently exists implicating nitrite itself as a carcinogen.

To obtain 22 milligrams of sodium nitrite per kilogram of body weight (a lethal dose), a 154-pound adult would have to consume, at once, 18.57 pounds of cured meat product containing 200 ppm sodium nitrite (because nitrite is rapidly converted to nitric oxide during the curing process, the 18.57 pound figure should be tripled at least). Even if a person could eat that amount of cured meat, salt, not nitrite, probably would be the toxic factor." Source

That makes a lot of sense considering all the fertilizers and pesticides used in farming.

Erin2903 · October 2011

I ate honey almost every morning with my greek yogurt and blueberries.

Fancy3Face · October 2011

I heard it was only FRESH, unpasturized honey. My mom and step dad have a honey bee farm and I stayed FAR away from their honey. It went from comb to jar. Store bought, pasturized honey is fine.

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