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hiring sucks :(

It is not my full time job to hire but I am short three people and on a mission to build a great team. I usually have a great instinct and have some of the most incredible people working with us. But this round has been awful. I've seen some of the worst resumes ever recently, too many pages, freaky dates, grammar issues, misspellings and more and this is a journalism job. Candidates are coming to interview in sloppy dress. Candidates are blowing the simple test. One stared at the TV in the newsroom during the entire interview. Another, I am sure was on crack. Apparently they are not teaching the basics in university anymore!

Anyone else having an awful time hiring? I don't get it. If the job market is so bad, where are the great talented people?

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Re: hiring sucks :(

  • YES! i'm trying to hire for a sales position with my company. Attention sales job applicants: if you want to prove to me you would be good for sales, you PROBABLY (definitely!) should call to follow-up on things with me! (i'm watching to make SURE you are calling - if you won't call me for the job, you're not going to call clients to follow-up either! sheesh. ALSO, this time i don't seem to have as many applicants - and i've heard from several colleagues, friends their companies are not getting as many applicants either. no jobs available you say???? oh wait. 

     

    (yikes - did not mean to quasi rant!- but yes i agree with you!) 

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  • my DH is now interviewing for an open position he is trying to fill and he has the same complaints as you. Some days he is so frustrated and feels like his day was wasted...He's been interviewing for this specific position for a month now and he says he is tired of people showing up unprepared or dressed like they are going to "skateboard" or the other day a guy showed up half an hour late or blank stares he gets when he asks a technical question...it blows my mind when he comes home and tells me about his interviews, because I've been trying to land a job for the last 7 months, I go in dressed professional, know my stuff, feel like a great fit, write TY notes, call, follow up, yet I can't land a job.

  • ps. when i say my DH comments on how the interviewee is dressed, I should add that this comment is coming from someone who doesn't believe in "wear a suit to an interview", he even thinks jeans and a nice shirt are fine if they know their stuff and seem like a good fit personality wise....so when he says "the dude came in skateboarding outfit that should have been retired" I can't help but imagine how horrible he must have been dressed.

    Oh here is a good one he got yesterday that I just remember. he got an email about the job posting that said  "I'm not currently looking for a job...bla bla I would have attached my resume but my computer is broken." 

  • I think part of the problem is that the jobs available don't often match the skill sets of the people who need jobs (which is why employers are complaining about so many resumes that just don't measure up.) The majority of jobs that were eliminated in the recession were working class jobs. Right now, two kinds of places are hiring---service jobs and those jobs that require a college degree or equivalent experience. Hence, it's hard to find the right fit in many instances.

     And, I'm not saying this is your problem by any stretch of the imagination, but just a general vent. There also seems to be a "something for nothing because, hey, they'll take anything!" attitude among some employers right now. I've seen ads for tenure track, PhD required professors recently...$32-35k/year. That's about 40% lower than the median starting salary in my field. If that's all you're willing to pay, don't be surprised when you don't get the applicants you want. I'm happily employed at another university, but even if I wasn't, there's no way I'd move my family across the country for 32k/yr.

  • imagehawkeyes00:

    YES! i'm trying to hire for a sales position with my company. Attention sales job applicants: if you want to prove to me you would be good for sales, you PROBABLY (definitely!) should call to follow-up on things with me! (i'm watching to make SURE you are calling - if you won't call me for the job, you're not going to call clients to follow-up either! sheesh. ALSO, this time i don't seem to have as many applicants - and i've heard from several colleagues, friends their companies are not getting as many applicants either. no jobs available you say???? oh wait. 

     

    (yikes - did not mean to quasi rant!- but yes i agree with you!) 

    I'm also hiring for a sales position right now. I had one woman who just wanted to know what the job was about, not sure if she wanted to leave her current company, A young man who thought sales might be fun since he has never done it before right out of high school. in our area, the job market is different than the rest of the United States. We are a .4% un employment. EVERYONE is hiring. If you dont have a job here, it is because you dont want one. Plus people looking to move to our are cannot find housing.

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    ps. when i say my DH comments on how the interviewee is dressed, I should add that this comment is coming from someone who doesn't believe in "wear a suit to an interview", he even thinks jeans and a nice shirt are fine if they know their stuff and seem like a good fit personality wise....so when he says "the dude came in skateboarding outfit that should have been retired" I can't help but imagine how horrible he must have been dressed.

    Oh here is a good one he got yesterday that I just remember. he got an email about the job posting that said  "I'm not currently looking for a job...bla bla I would have attached my resume but my computer is broken." 

    Wow. Why did that guy even bother??? I recently had one say he could not send in any clips (it is a writing job) because his computer was broken. Hello.....library and cut and paste old clips from the last newspaper you worked for.

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  • image5thOfJuly:

    I think part of the problem is that the jobs available don't often match the skill sets of the people who need jobs (which is why employers are complaining about so many resumes that just don't measure up.) The majority of jobs that were eliminated in the recession were working class jobs. Right now, two kinds of places are hiring---service jobs and those jobs that require a college degree or equivalent experience. Hence, it's hard to find the right fit in many instances.

     And, I'm not saying this is your problem by any stretch of the imagination, but just a general vent. There also seems to be a "something for nothing because, hey, they'll take anything!" attitude among some employers right now. I've seen ads for tenure track, PhD required professors recently...$32-35k/year. That's about 40% lower than the median starting salary in my field. If that's all you're willing to pay, don't be surprised when you don't get the applicants you want. I'm happily employed at another university, but even if I wasn't, there's no way I'd move my family across the country for 32k/yr.

    The average journalist job is still sadly paying the low $20s per year. We start at double plus that. I hear you though on the -get em cheap-philosophy. Too many companies are doing that right now. I think that is a bad way to operate because the minute the economy and job market improves, those low paid people will leave. HIring and training is so costly, exhausting to the company and to the customers. I'd prefer to bring in good people, treat them well and keep them for goodness sakes. I hate recruiting!!

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  • imagedavidandheather:
    imagehoneydew01:

    ps. when i say my DH comments on how the interviewee is dressed, I should add that this comment is coming from someone who doesn't believe in "wear a suit to an interview", he even thinks jeans and a nice shirt are fine if they know their stuff and seem like a good fit personality wise....so when he says "the dude came in skateboarding outfit that should have been retired" I can't help but imagine how horrible he must have been dressed.

    Oh here is a good one he got yesterday that I just remember. he got an email about the job posting that said  "I'm not currently looking for a job...bla bla I would have attached my resume but my computer is broken." 

    Wow. Why did that guy even bother??? I recently had one say he could not send in any clips (it is a writing job) because his computer was broken. Hello.....library and cut and paste old clips from the last newspaper you worked for.

     

    exactly! My DH is like "what do you want me to do??" Ps. This is for a senior level computer programming/developer job. :)

  • imagehoneydew01:
    imagedavidandheather:
    imagehoneydew01:

    ps. when i say my DH comments on how the interviewee is dressed, I should add that this comment is coming from someone who doesn't believe in "wear a suit to an interview", he even thinks jeans and a nice shirt are fine if they know their stuff and seem like a good fit personality wise....so when he says "the dude came in skateboarding outfit that should have been retired" I can't help but imagine how horrible he must have been dressed.

    Oh here is a good one he got yesterday that I just remember. he got an email about the job posting that said  "I'm not currently looking for a job...bla bla I would have attached my resume but my computer is broken." 

    Wow. Why did that guy even bother??? I recently had one say he could not send in any clips (it is a writing job) because his computer was broken. Hello.....library and cut and paste old clips from the last newspaper you worked for.

     

    exactly! My DH is like "what do you want me to do??" Ps. This is for a senior level computer programming/developer job. :)

    unbelievable! I get it though. DH deals with development team of programmers and designers. They are intelligent, amazing, creative and well, misunderstood!

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  • imagedavidandheather:
    imagehoneydew01:
    imagedavidandheather:
    imagehoneydew01:

    ps. when i say my DH comments on how the interviewee is dressed, I should add that this comment is coming from someone who doesn't believe in "wear a suit to an interview", he even thinks jeans and a nice shirt are fine if they know their stuff and seem like a good fit personality wise....so when he says "the dude came in skateboarding outfit that should have been retired" I can't help but imagine how horrible he must have been dressed.

    Oh here is a good one he got yesterday that I just remember. he got an email about the job posting that said  "I'm not currently looking for a job...bla bla I would have attached my resume but my computer is broken." 

    Wow. Why did that guy even bother??? I recently had one say he could not send in any clips (it is a writing job) because his computer was broken. Hello.....library and cut and paste old clips from the last newspaper you worked for.

     

    exactly! My DH is like "what do you want me to do??" Ps. This is for a senior level computer programming/developer job. :)

    unbelievable! I get it though. DH deals with development team of programmers and designers. They are intelligent, amazing, creative and well, misunderstood!

    LOL I agree 100%!! so true!

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