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Follow up to my baby post

Thanks for the well wishes!

my problem with breastfeeding seems to be that my milk is still not really in (I heard it can take up to a week.. it's Friday and I gave birth later on Monday) so when I try to nurse, he latches for a couple seconds, then lets go and cries. so attempting to nurse takes a very long time, there is a lot of screaming, and I don't think much time is spent actually sucking. I think he's frustrated because he's hungry and his stomach capacity has started growing and I can't really fill his hunger. I went to the PED yesterday due to lack of poops/pees and his jaundice and his weight loss has hit the 10% mark so I have to pump to get up supply and supplement with formula.

I will have to try the nipple shields since I am sore, so thanks for that recommendation! any other advice is welcome!

And ering, my hair was dyed in high school.. that was not natural strawberry blond :) Right now it is brown with white streaks since I stopped dying it after my BFP.

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Re: Follow up to my baby post

  • pump pump pump, if you have to feed formula until it comes in that's okay!

    you can try using a medela supplement system too instead of  abottle and just keep sticking him on the boob!

    you have this. 

  • My milk also took 5 days to come in. By that time she has lost a pound. We also had to give a little formula. We did it is using a cup or a syringe. The baby might be a little frustrated due to a slow let down. If you can, pump when you are ready to feed for just a minute or 2 . Once you have your let down then you can put the baby on. The milk will be right there and he won't have to work so hard to eat. Hang in there. It is very nerve racking when they continue to lose weight and your milk is not in.
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  • what's a medela supplement system? Right now I'm supplementing him with formula after nursing, then I'm pumping and giving that to him via bottle as well.

    I ordered the nipple shield with amazon mom free shipping... looking forward to getting it!

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  • imageKimbatron:

    what's a medela supplement system? Right now I'm supplementing him with formula after nursing, then I'm pumping and giving that to him via bottle as well.

    I ordered the nipple shield with amazon mom free shipping... looking forward to getting it!

    It's a feeding tube like the syringe but you give it to them at the nipple so they associate. http://www.motheringfromtheheart.com/catalog/58supplemental nurser.htm You can make them too.
  • Also, 1 caution about the shield. The babys get use to using it and sometimes you can have a hard time getting off of it. I would only use it if you are so sore that you cannot continue nursing. Also had it does make it harder for the baby to get milk out. Has he been evaluated for tongue tie?
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  • imagelarrysdarling:
    My milk also took 5 days to come in. By that time she has lost a pound. We also had to give a little formula. We did it is using a cup or a syringe. The baby might be a little frustrated due to a slow let down. If you can, pump when you are ready to feed for just a minute or 2 . Once you have your let down then you can put the baby on. The milk will be right there and he won't have to work so hard to eat. Hang in there. It is very nerve racking when they continue to lose weight and your milk is not in.

    oh that makes perfect sense - good idea! thanks!

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  • Also rub breastmilk on your nipples it was heaven sent in the beginning
  • good lip balm is good too like kiehls. I went through three tubes in 6 months.
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  • jumping in here....

    if your breast are still really full after the baby is done, do I start pumping that out? I don't have a pump yet but I definitely need to get one asap. She'll eat a good amount, but I still feel like the boobs are full. Maybe it's because the milk just came in yesterday and hasn't adjusted yet?

    and one more thing. Should I be setting an alarm to wake up and feed her at night? I fed her at 9:30pm last night, we went to be around 10pm. Next thing I know I am waking up at 4:30am! She didn't wake to eat at all and I was so tired that I didn't wake either. Totally made me nervous.

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    jumping in here....

    if your breast are still really full after the baby is done, do I start pumping that out? I don't have a pump yet but I definitely need to get one asap. She'll eat a good amount, but I still feel like the boobs are full. Maybe it's because the milk just came in yesterday and hasn't adjusted yet?

    and one more thing. Should I be setting an alarm to wake up and feed her at night? I fed her at 9:30pm last night, we went to be around 10pm. Next thing I know I am waking up at 4:30am! She didn't wake to eat at all and I was so tired that I didn't wake either. Totally made me nervous.

    tammy my boobs finally regulated after about two months. i never needed a stash but pumped for some ease the first two months but once my boob regulated i never felt over filled.  

    to make my boobs feel better i would massage them as he ate in the early days apparently that is a way to keep from getting clogged ducts so i just did what felt right and it was right!  

  • You are going to feel very full in the first few weeks. Nursing is supplynand demand. If you pump you are telling your body he baby needs more milk and it will continue to make it. I would not pump yet Tammy. Just focus on putting baby to boob. She should be nursing every 2-3 hours from the beginning of each feeding. Bm digests very fast so she willget hungry faster then if she was ff. I woke my girl up to eat but she lost a lot of weight. I probably would wake her untilthe pedi says not to. Feeling full will go away but it takes a while.
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  • Tam, I wouldn't be waking myself up to feed her - let her dictate the schedule.  As long as she is peeing and pooping (which with BM, it is normal to go several days without one, as long as all the meconium is out) normally, no need to wake her to feed

    A big stash was super important to me, so I pumped every chance I got int he beginning when I was super full.  Once your supply regulates, pumping is harder

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  • In between feedings if you are still super full and sore than you can hand express a little to get relief. But like the pp said your boobs are supply and demand, you lose more they will produce more.
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  • imagelarrysdarling:

    Has he been evaluated for tongue tie?

    Ditto.  What you're explaining reminds me of my son.  He was tongue tied and couldn't latch for more than a minute or so at a time and he was really frustrated (as was I) and would just scream and literally push my boob away.  One of the nurses caught it in the hospital and I had never heard of it and the thought of having his tongue clipped sounded so barbaric to me that I decided against it and ended up formula feeding.  I wish I had known about it before and how the tongue clipping isn't that big of a deal or else I would have just had it done so I could have nursed.  Good luck, I hope it gets easier for you! 

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  • imageShannon1110:
    imagelarrysdarling:
    Has he been evaluated for tongue tie?
    Ditto. What you're explaining reminds me of my son. He was tongue tied and couldn't latch for more than a minute or so at a time and he was really frustrated (as was I) and would just scream and literally push my boob away. One of the nurses caught it in the hospital and I had never heard of it and the thought of having his tongue clipped sounded so barbaric to me that I decided against it and ended up formula feeding. I wish I had known about it before and how the tongue clipping isn't that big of a deal or else I would have just had it done so I could have nursed. Good luck, I hope it gets easier for you!

    Ditto X 2.

    Danica was tongue tied. At her 2 week checkup, we found out that she had not gained one single ounce from when she left the hospital. Here her Ped was telling me that there was something wrong with me but I really didn't think so because my milk came in before I even left the hospital. (With a 2nd baby it comes in much faster.) She would latch on but because of the tongue tie, she would get so tired out from trying to suck. So she was getting enough to maintain but not enough to grow. Scary stuff.

    The Ped sent me to a LC and as soon as I walked into the LC, they were like, "She's tongue tied. It's not you, it's her."

    I then made her an appointment to get her tongue clipped and since then she's been packin' on the pounds with no problems.

     The issue I had though was that we didn't know she was tongue tied for 2.5 weeks. She didn't get her tongue clipped until week 3. So all the time while she was trying to eat for those 2.5 weeks, she wasn't getting enough which then was making my body wean (is that how you spell that?). Anyway, it was really hard after weaning for 2.5 weeks to try to get back up to where I needed to be so make sure you get it checked now.

    Apparently a tongue tie is an extremely political thing. I learned from the LC that the hospital will not tell you in most cases even if they do notice it. I don't know all the details behind it but at Abington, they will NOT tell you which I do not get especially if it is in turn hurting your child.

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  • imageShannon1110:

    imagelarrysdarling:

    Has he been evaluated for tongue tie?

    Ditto.  What you're explaining reminds me of my son.  He was tongue tied and couldn't latch for more than a minute or so at a time and he was really frustrated (as was I) and would just scream and literally push my boob away.  One of the nurses caught it in the hospital and I had never heard of it and the thought of having his tongue clipped sounded so barbaric to me that I decided against it and ended up formula feeding.  I wish I had known about it before and how the tongue clipping isn't that big of a deal or else I would have just had it done so I could have nursed.  Good luck, I hope it gets easier for you! 

    Does Tommy still have the tongue tie? Did you get his clipped? Just wondering because it can lead to major developmental problems such as speech problems and such if not clipped. The main reason I got Danica's clipped was not only so that she could eat but also because I didn't want her to have speech problems in the future.

    A tongue tie is also genetic so if you or your husband have it, your kid probably will, too. Or if anyone in your families have it, for that matter.

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  • imageHeatherWain:
    imageShannon1110:

    imagelarrysdarling:

    Has he been evaluated for tongue tie?

    Ditto.  What you're explaining reminds me of my son.  He was tongue tied and couldn't latch for more than a minute or so at a time and he was really frustrated (as was I) and would just scream and literally push my boob away.  One of the nurses caught it in the hospital and I had never heard of it and the thought of having his tongue clipped sounded so barbaric to me that I decided against it and ended up formula feeding.  I wish I had known about it before and how the tongue clipping isn't that big of a deal or else I would have just had it done so I could have nursed.  Good luck, I hope it gets easier for you! 

    Does Tommy still have the tongue tie? Did you get his clipped? Just wondering because it can lead to major developmental problems such as speech problems and such if not clipped. The main reason I got Danica's clipped was not only so that she could eat but also because I didn't want her to have speech problems in the future.

    I was going to ask the same thing! 

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  • imageHeatherWain:
    imageShannon1110:

    imagelarrysdarling:

    Has he been evaluated for tongue tie?

    Ditto.  What you're explaining reminds me of my son.  He was tongue tied and couldn't latch for more than a minute or so at a time and he was really frustrated (as was I) and would just scream and literally push my boob away.  One of the nurses caught it in the hospital and I had never heard of it and the thought of having his tongue clipped sounded so barbaric to me that I decided against it and ended up formula feeding.  I wish I had known about it before and how the tongue clipping isn't that big of a deal or else I would have just had it done so I could have nursed.  Good luck, I hope it gets easier for you! 

    Does Tommy still have the tongue tie? Did you get his clipped? Just wondering because it can lead to major developmental problems such as speech problems and such if not clipped. The main reason I got Danica's clipped was not only so that she could eat but also because I didn't want her to have speech problems in the future.

    A tongue tie is also genetic so if you or your husband have it, your kid probably will, too. Or if anyone in your families have it, for that matter.

     

    He still has it. DH has it as well.  Neither of them were clipped.  I talked to my ped and he said that Tommy's tongue tie wasn't that bad and he didn't feel it would cause any problems down the road with speech.  I was ready to have it clipped if it needed to be but my ped made a pretty good case that he would fine.  He said some babies have almost no length between the floor of their mouth and their tongue and those are the kids that usually have the speech problems.  Tommy has length it's just a little short.

    He's starting to say words now and little sentences and so far so good.  Hopefully we made the right choice and the ped gave me good advice.  I figure if worse comes to worse and he needs it clipped he can still have it done when he's older.  I had my tongue pierced when I was younger and it wasn't painful so I imagine it can't be much worse than that. 

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  • imagelarrysdarling:
    Also, 1 caution about the shield. The babys get use to using it and sometimes you can have a hard time getting off of it. I would only use it if you are so sore that you cannot continue nursing. Also had it does make it harder for the baby to get milk out. Has he been evaluated for tongue tie?

    No, he hasn't been evaluated for tongue tie... my friend's daughter had that and was snipped but they caught it in the hospital. I'd need to make a PED appointment for that, I'd assume? (vs me being able to tell like I'm the baby whisperer or something)

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    imagelarrysdarling:
    Also, 1 caution about the shield. The babys get use to using it and sometimes you can have a hard time getting off of it. I would only use it if you are so sore that you cannot continue nursing. Also had it does make it harder for the baby to get milk out. Has he been evaluated for tongue tie?

    No, he hasn't been evaluated for tongue tie... my friend's daughter had that and was snipped but they caught it in the hospital. I'd need to make a PED appointment for that, I'd assume? (vs me being able to tell like I'm the baby whisperer or something)

    Hw would know better, but I'm pretty sure some signs of tongue tie would be pain with latching that doesn't go away as the nursing session progresses, lack of weight gain, and his tongue wouldn't come out past his lips. It would seem really like tight in his mouth, the webbing under his tongue , called thebefore frenulum, would be really short. His pedi would check it and might have done so already if they know you're nursing.
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  • imagelarrysdarling:
    imageKimbatron:

    imagelarrysdarling:
    Also, 1 caution about the shield. The babys get use to using it and sometimes you can have a hard time getting off of it. I would only use it if you are so sore that you cannot continue nursing. Also had it does make it harder for the baby to get milk out. Has he been evaluated for tongue tie?

    No, he hasn't been evaluated for tongue tie... my friend's daughter had that and was snipped but they caught it in the hospital. I'd need to make a PED appointment for that, I'd assume? (vs me being able to tell like I'm the baby whisperer or something)

    Hw would know better, but I'm pretty sure some signs of tongue tie would be pain with latching that doesn't go away as the nursing session progresses, lack of weight gain, and his tongue wouldn't come out past his lips. It would seem really like tight in his mouth, the webbing under his tongue , called thebefore frenulum, would be really short. His pedi would check it and might have done so already if they know you're nursing.

    For our daughter, her tongue tie was almost to the tip of her tongue. LD is right... it's a membrane under your tongue that connects the tongue to the bottom of the mouth. There are no blood vessels that travel through this membrane so there is very little to no blood when it is snipped. Before our daughter I never even heard of a tongue tie. When the LC showed me, it was so obvious that she couldn't move her tongue very well.

    When I took our daughter to get hers snipped, they said it's better to do it when they are infants and to not wait because apparently it's a worse procedure as kids get older. I don't know how it's worse because they are older but that's what I was told. 

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    imagelarrysdarling:
    imageKimbatron:

    imagelarrysdarling:
    Also, 1 caution about the shield. The babys get use to using it and sometimes you can have a hard time getting off of it. I would only use it if you are so sore that you cannot continue nursing. Also had it does make it harder for the baby to get milk out. Has he been evaluated for tongue tie?

    No, he hasn't been evaluated for tongue tie... my friend's daughter had that and was snipped but they caught it in the hospital. I'd need to make a PED appointment for that, I'd assume? (vs me being able to tell like I'm the baby whisperer or something)

    Hw would know better, but I'm pretty sure some signs of tongue tie would be pain with latching that doesn't go away as the nursing session progresses, lack of weight gain, and his tongue wouldn't come out past his lips. It would seem really like tight in his mouth, the webbing under his tongue , called thebefore frenulum, would be really short. His pedi would check it and might have done so already if they know you're nursing.

    For our daughter, her tongue tie was almost to the tip of her tongue. LD is right... it's a membrane under your tongue that connects the tongue to the bottom of the mouth. There are no blood vessels that travel through this membrane so there is very little to no blood when it is snipped. Before our daughter I never even heard of a tongue tie. When the LC showed me, it was so obvious that she couldn't move her tongue very well.

    When I took our daughter to get hers snipped, they said it's better to do it when they are infants and to not wait because apparently it's a worse procedure as kids get older. I don't know how it's worse because they are older but that's what I was told. 

    thanks, ladies!

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