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Flip house extending mortgage approval

We were told the bank had everything they needed for our mortgage application/approval and we were on track for our November 14th closing date. Today, the underwriter got the title and learned that the house was a flip and now we have to go through a more rigorous process to get the mortgage (which will obviously take longer).

Since we were told everything was on track for the 14th, we gave notice for our apartment. I'm fairly certain we won't be closing on time which means we're going to have to move everything TWICE (once to a storage unit, then to the house). I'm extremely frustrated/freaking out. 

Does anyone know why the house being a flip has any impact on the mortgage approval?? The house appraised out without any issues. 

Sigh...  

Re: Flip house extending mortgage approval

  • Are you getting an FHA mortgage?

     

  • Banks are very leary of flips because 9 times out of 10 they are done by people who have no business flipping houses so they do shortcuts to make it look nice but underneath it is a hot mess.  Your house is an investment for the bank so they want to make sure that the investment is really worth it.  If the house ends up being a money pit because of the shortcuts and you walk away, the bank is on the hook for the difference between what they loaned you and the value of a subpar house.  They are just doing their due diligence to make sure it is really worth it.  The appraisal is basing the house on comps and the cosmetic look of the house so it doesn't help the bank with regards to if the work was done properly.
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  • There is a 90 day flip rule pertaining to investment properties. The owner of the property must own the home for 90 days before sale can take place. This rule was temporarily suspended thru Dec 2011, however a lot of banks are still using the 90 days. Sometimes banks will required 2 appraisals when dealing with a flipped house to ensure compliance with 20% rule. Seller has to show acquisition, carrying and renovation costs to lender. 

    This sounds like is happening in your case. You should call your REA or loan officer for more specifics. 

    GL! 

     

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    Banks are very leary of flips because 9 times out of 10 they are done by people who have no business flipping houses so they do shortcuts to make it look nice but underneath it is a hot mess.  Your house is an investment for the bank so they want to make sure that the investment is really worth it.  If the house ends up being a money pit because of the shortcuts and you walk away, the bank is on the hook for the difference between what they loaned you and the value of a subpar house.  They are just doing their due diligence to make sure it is really worth it.  The appraisal is basing the house on comps and the cosmetic look of the house so it doesn't help the bank with regards to if the work was done properly.

    This, definitely.  When we were looking for houses, we saw some that were definitely a hot mess underneath.  They looked pretty, but if you opened the fuse box there were fuses going in bizarre places, or the hot water heater was ancient and there were cracks in the foundation.  Most flippers don't care how long the house lasts, they just want it to be pretty enough and last long enough to earn them a nice profit.  Our house was a flip, and we got lucky that the builder was pretty good when they originally built the house, because our flipper was LAZY.  We had to fix a bunch of stuff once we moved in.  The paint, for example, is so cheap that it wipes off.  We had to put a new sink in the kitchen in the rental unit, because they put in a new countertop and a BAR SINK.  Who puts in a mini sink and no dishwasher in a kitchen?!  Stuff like that.

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  • Thanks, everyone! It does make sense, I guess. Just very frustrating! I think the flipper did a good job. He's a contractor and we had a very thorough inspection and the inspector said the house was in great shape so hopefully we'll be okay in terms of the house. I do know that they're getting things from the seller so hopefully that moves quickly. 

    I know everyone goes through this long process now with the bank - I just needed to vent! 

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    There is a 90 day flip rule pertaining to investment properties. The owner of the property must own the home for 90 days before sale can take place. This rule was temporarily suspended thru Dec 2011, however a lot of banks are still using the 90 days. Sometimes banks will required 2 appraisals when dealing with a flipped house to ensure compliance with 20% rule. Seller has to show acquisition, carrying and renovation costs to lender. 

    This sounds like is happening in your case. You should call your REA or loan officer for more specifics. 

    GL! 

     

     

    This is exactly what happened when we bought our home; we had two appraisals and the seller/investor had to show the amount of improvements done on the house. We had no problems after that since the appraisal came back the same both times. 

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