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Duggars Question
What happens if Michelle Duggar has a late onset of menopause? Will she continue having children into her years as a senior citizen? How do you feel about this? At what point should she stop? I googled and found out that the world's oldest woman to give birth was 72. That means it's technically possible for Michelle to have another 27 years of reproducing in her!
Article about the 72 year old: http://abcnews.go.com/Health/ActiveAging/story?id=5309018&page=1#.Trnmp7LO-So
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Re: Duggars Question
I'll still defend her. I'm riled up about reproductive rights today.
Plenty of parents much younger than the Duggars engage in dangerous behavior that leads them to an early grave. Maybe it's better to have kickass parents for a short time than to have to play parent to your own parents because of their addictions or whatever.
Since the Bates have used treatments to encourage fertility (not ART, though), I would imagine that the Duggars would as well. So, theoretically, she can continue getting pregnant for a long time. That doesn't mean she can do it in a healthy way, but she's already been shown that and apparently didn't care.
ETA I fully support her right to have these children. I just judge the choice. I just a lot of choices people make, so I'm not just attacking her specifically. But, the right is not in question at all.
I really think she will continue to have children until she is no longer able to. I think that given their beliefs that once she reaches menopause that they won't make any efforts to have more children. They see it as God has enabled us to have this many children and for that we are thankful. I see absolutely nothing wrong with that.
The Duggars remind me a lot of several families that I grew up around. Neither had quite that many children but held a lot of the same "we will have children until God decides otherwise" approach to life. I think its a neat approach to have.
Someone wrote on another board that she weans her babies early so she can try to get pregnant again. I'm not sure if that's true or not... It's clear that she's always actively trying to get pregnant though (she could use charting or body temp as natural bc methods).
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So? The babies don't starve as a result of her weaning.
Not if they don't believe in any prevention at all.
I was pointing out that she is always actively trying to get pregnant. I would be shocked if I ever found out that any child was mistreated in that family. I was under the impression that she goes about her daily life and is just delightfully surprised when she found out she was pregnant, as in no effort or planning put into it. I didn't realize that she was taking steps and trying for more kids. Am I making any sense?
Photo bomb, yeah!
Yeah, and I think doing everything possible to naturally prime her body to conceive another child probably jives with the religious aspect, especially because breast-feeding can be a way to avoid pregnancy.
I don't think she would chart and temp as birth control because, unless I'm mistaken, the Quiverfull movement is all about accepting as many children as God grants to you. I don't think they try to avoid pregnancy at all through natural or artificial methods.
I understand what you were getting at now. I still don't judge her for actively trying all the time. It's not something I'd ever be in the position to do because I was robbed of my fertility, and I gave my religion the finger regarding assisted reproductive technology, but having the right to choose to do IVF has made me so, so much more pro-choice.
I think the only argument against the Duggars that I can potentially agree with is the impact on the environment. The footprint for a family like that is obviously a stress, BUT, things like homeschooling probably enable them to prevent commutes, thus using less gas than my husband and I do commuting day in and day out. If they were to utilize dual flush toilets, tankless water heaters, solar panels, etc, they could easily have a smaller footprint than my family of two humans + three fluffies, driving two small/midsize SUVs, living in a 4 bedroom house. I don't know anything about their eco choices to opine though.
I am angry about the talk of her uterus/vagina/reproductive organs. It's just not cool.
One thing that strikes me as odd in this whole situation is that they said that when they first got married, she had a miscarriage which they thought was a result of her being on birth control and thought it must have been a sign, and ever since decided they would let it be up to God to decide how many children they have. I understand their reasoning, but she had a horrible pregnancy with tons of complications and their newest daughter being a preemie... shouldn't that be a sign from God that her age may pose higher risks to her being pregnant again?
I think they'll keep right on popping out babies, until her uterus falls out or they run out of "J" names, whichever is first.
Their God says they should be fruitful and multiply. He's given her the ability to continue to do so.
Or are you talking about your God?
I would bet that the fact that baby and mother recovered and are happy and healthy would be a sign from God that the pregnancy was supposed to be, and if this one is ok, then so on and so forth
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