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FB: Soooo not PC
There is a FB group for all people who have my maiden name. I joined a year or two ago, and was able to connect with a 3rd or 4th cousin who lives in England. So I've kept up to date with the discussions on the group to see if I can find more relatives.
Anyways... right now there is a discussion about what branch of our namesake were slave-owners, and reproduced to "create" the African-American Maidenname's.
I'm just sitting here shaking my head. The group is full of middle aged people, maybe it's not such a faux pas for their generation?
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Re: FB: Soooo not PC
That's pretty messed up regardless of your generation.
I wonder if the part of the country these people are from makes a difference? My dad (nearing 60, I'd consider him middle aged) grew up in Seattle and didn't experience blatant racism firsthand growing up, but he clearly remembers reading news stories about horribly racist happenings in other parts of the country as a child. It deeply affected him to see that kind of stuff going on, and he would never say anything like what you're describing. But, apparently when he was a kid (50's/60s), those attitudes still existed in some places. Very sad.
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what's racist is wanting to differentiate between the African-American Maiden names and the White Maiden names. It's ok to discuss who were slave owners, but the attitude about basically "creating" black people in the family line is racist. Just ask an African-American what they would think reading that thread, probably wouldn't feel warm and fuzzy about their extended family.
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I don't see how it is discriminatory to differentiate between "white" lines in the family and African-American lines. Again, looking at this from a geneaological perspective (because I can personally see no other reason for being part of a fb surname group unless you were interested in your family and its history), it could be potentially helpful to know which members were slave owners and fathered African-American children. Maybe there were two John Smiths in the family that lived close to the same time, but one was a slave owner and the other wasn't. If you were trying to figure out which John was the father of certain members of the family, it could be useful information. Just pointing out genetic differences in a family tree does not automatically make them racist. If they were saying that a specific line of African-American decendants didn't deserve to have the family name or were less equal parts of the family or something, I could agree with you.
It isn't always about what you say, but how you say it though, right? Using words like "create" is kind of offensive. Granted, OP would have to post more of the discussion, but my impression is that they weren't exactly saying things as PC as you did. There are good and bad ways to go about that discussion, it just sounds like they weren't really being very sensitive (and probably think/know everyone in the discussion is white and therefore wouldn't care what kind of language they use).
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I find it all interesting...doesn't mean you have to be proud of that ancestory, but why pretend it didn't happen.
I was able to trace a line of DH's (he is black) fam all the way back to a slave owner/slave. But also see that he was freed, given land by the slave owner family and that line went on to start the first African-American insurance co or bank in NC, owned land and were free b/f most others and led to the first African-American in Congress. I find it fascinating.
And when I've traced my families back, I'm always looking for any slave owners (hoping not to find any, but I want to know). Most of my family didn't, but there were a few lines that did.
The original thread on the FB started with an African American Maidenname asking if there were any other African Americans in the group. There was a couple of responses, then someone wrote "I wonder whose ancestors created you guys." The grouping of the African Americans under "you guys" and using the term "created" rubbed me the wrong way.
No one else got offended (or at least didn't post it). The convo ended up moving to the # of people in the US with the last name (slightly over 25,000) and then a race breakdown ( 82.56% of those with this family name identified themselves as being white, 13.68 as black, .28 Asian & Pacific Islander, .69% American Indian & Native Alaskan, 1.41% as two or more races, and 1.39% as Hispanic ethnic origin)
So I don't think any harm was meant by the post that made me side-eye it, and it was more of a genealogical topic overall. I still don't care much for the wording they chose originally.
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Yes, poor wording, and you can side-eye it all you want, but it doesn't seem to me like the OP meant it offensively.
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Yeah, my first reaction was this isn't racist to me. But, this language would definitely rub me the wrong way too...
this. presentation (in this case, wording) is everything.
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