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those who posted on FB about boycotting chic fil a

One of my (gay) FB friends posted this as her status today:

While youre all super cute for boycotting CHICK-FIL-A, here are a few more who are just as bad: AUTO ZONE, CINEMARK, CAMPBELLS SOUP, HOBBY LOBBY, DOMINOS PIZZA, CRACKER BARREL, GOLDS GYM, DISH NETWORK, SALVATION ARMY, URBAN OUTFITTERS, WALMART... and yes, BOY SCOUTS.

I was surprised by a few on the list, especially Urban Outfitters

 

Re: those who posted on FB about boycotting chic fil a

  • yeah I have a few friends who reluctantly boycott Urban Outfitters.

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  • Why are people boycotting chik fil a?
  • Yeah- I'd heard about these places too.  I don't shop at any of them either.  I've never had Chick-Fil-A. 
  • I knew about some of those, but not all. What does she mean by "You guys are cute" though? 
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  • imageWonderRed:
    Why are people boycotting chik fil a?

    Because apparently they donate millions a year to anti gay organizations

  • imageandrealynn0707:
    I knew about some of those, but not all. What does she mean by "You guys are cute" though? 

    She thinks she knows more than us apparently.  I've known about a lot of these organizations, and have adjusted my shopping accordingly.  Not everyone is a blind follower of FB, y'know. 

    A big old middle finger to you, stupid Nest.
  • I've known about Hobby Lobby, Salvation Army, Urban Outfitters & Boy Scouts but not the rest. I already boycott Walmart for other reason.

    I had a lot of people comment on my post about it on FB that the company is private and has the right to do whatever they want - that's all true, but we as consumers have the right to take our business wherever we want to also. 

  • imagepixy_stix:

    imageandrealynn0707:
    I knew about some of those, but not all. What does she mean by "You guys are cute" though? 

    She thinks she knows more than us apparently.  I've known about a lot of these organizations, and have adjusted my shopping accordingly.  Not everyone is a blind follower of FB, y'know. 

    I am assuming she had a bunch of bandwagonner type comments on the original chic fil a subject and was trying to educate people on the fact that many businesses have similar views
  • imageruby soho:

    imageWonderRed:
    Why are people boycotting chik fil a?

    Because apparently they donate millions a year to anti gay organizations

    Wow, I didn't know that! Nor about some of the other business too. 

  • Pretty soon I'm just going to become a hermit.  Hopefully Amazon doesn't start in, or I won't be buying a damn thing.

    On the brighter side, I won't be as poor? Smile

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  • imageruby soho:

    One of my (gay) FB friends posted this as her status today:

    While youre all super cute for boycotting CHICK-FIL-A, here are a few more who are just as bad: AUTO ZONE, CINEMARK, CAMPBELLS SOUP, HOBBY LOBBY, DOMINOS PIZZA, CRACKER BARREL, GOLDS GYM, DISH NETWORK, SALVATION ARMY, URBAN OUTFITTERS, WALMART... and yes, BOY SCOUTS.

    I was surprised by a few on the list, especially Urban Outfitters

     

    From what I just read (with the exception of a few with recent lawsuits), most of these major groups get on the Human Rights Campaign list for worst companies based on if they have anti-discrimination tennents and if they offer same-sex benefits through their HR. 

    So my follow-up question is...does your own employer offer same-sex benefits and have anti-discrimination tennents/training? 

    ETA: Oh and here are some of the partner corporations with HRC - if you want some alternatives...

    American Airlines, CitiGroup, Microsoft, Nationwide Insurance, Bank of America, Lexus, Deloitte, Ernst & Young, Prudential, Mitchell Gold + Bob Williams (?), BV (vineyard), BP, Chevron, Google, MGM and Ceasers, Nike, Chase Bank, IBM, Dell, Goldman Sachs, Macy's, MetLife, Morgan Stanley, Orbitz, Shell, Replacements (that crystal online place), Starbucks, TD Bank, Tylenol

    And here's a link to the HRC buyers guide.  I just found all this stuff this morning, but it's pretty interesting to read.  http://www.hrc.org/apps/buyersguide/index.php

     

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  • I know I'm a PW, but I just saw on the HRC buying guide that Campbell Soup is a preferred brand...not a boycotted brand.  Your friend might want to double check that. 

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  • Has Nike stopped using sweatshops?
  • imageSunflower22:
    Has Nike stopped using sweatshops?

    No idea - it's from the HRC perspective, so it might not take into account other human interests outside of the US.  I just don't know. 

    The HRC website's buying guide says, "They are watching to see if the businesses they patronize understand and honor issues important to them, giving buying power to issues ranging from LGBT inclusiveness to environmental protection."

     

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  • why am I not seeing any of KSun's posts?

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  • nevermind, I see them again now. Weird.

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  • If you're following this list, keep in mind that some of these are parent companies of even more brands. For example, Urban Outfitters owns Urban Outfitters, Anthropologie, Free People, Terrain and BHLDN.
  • As long as Target isn't on the list, I'm pretty good. Well, that and Sephora.

     

    The nestie formerly known as MrsV2005. I just realized I have no recent pictures of me or the kids! Guess I need to get the camera out!
  • imageXMrsV2005:

    As long as Target isn't on the list, I'm pretty good. Well, that and Sephora.

     

    Target's owner gave a shitton of money to conservative politicians who don't support LGBT last year. I think it was given under his name, not the Target name, however.  

  • imageSunflower22:
    imageXMrsV2005:

    As long as Target isn't on the list, I'm pretty good. Well, that and Sephora.

     

    Target's owner gave a shitton of money to conservative politicians who don't support LGBT last year. I think it was given under his name, not the Target name, however.  

    I totally agree that a lot of conservative political candidates are not for equal LGBT rights/benefits, but not all corporations can be run by democrats or liberals, so an individual support a conservative politician, even if that individual is head of a large corporation, is something to consider, but also it's great to have a corporation that considers equal rights/benefits in their actual policies and practicies.  It does look like they took his actions or donations into account if you look at the last scoring category, but who knows?

    Target is a on the HRC list as good to buy from, but you can see where they fall with their scoring below.

    Target - HRC Score

    Policies and Benefits

    Policy Description

    Rating

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    Non-discrimination policy includes sexual orientation

    + 15

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    Non-discrimination policy includes gender identity and/or expression

    + 15

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    Company-provided domestic partner health insurance (including parity in spousal and partner COBRA, dental, vision and domestic partners legal dependent coverage)

    + 15

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    Parity in spousal/partner soft benefits (bereavement leave; supplemental life insurance; relocation assistance; adoption assistance; joint/survivor annuity; pre-retirement survivor annuity; retiree healthcare benefits; employee discounts)

    + 5

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    Offers equal health coverage for transgender individuals without exclusion for medically necessary care

    0

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    Organizational LGBT cultural competency (diversity trainings, resources or accountability measures)

    + 10

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    Company-supported LGBT employee resource group or firm-wide diversity council that includes LGBT issues, OR would support a LGBT employee resource group with company resources if employees expressed an interest

    + 10

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    Engages in appropriate and respectful advertising and marketing or sponsors LGBT community events, organizations, or legislative efforts

    + 15

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    Engages in action that would undermine the goal of LGBT equality

    0

    Final Rating

    85 (out of 100)

     
     
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  • Thanks for all the info on this, S!
  • imageSunflower22:
    Thanks for all the info on this, S!

    Just reitterating what I am reading on the HRC website. ;) 

    I was glad to find that buying guide this morning and would like to find something similar for environmental practices also, but haven't looked around too much for one.  It's good to reevaluate where and who you support every so often.  Do you know of any like environmental rating/buying guides?

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  • Call me ignorant or hypocritical but if I was truly going to boycott every one and everything that disagrees with my beliefs, I'd have to never set foot in DH's parents house again!

    I know what I believe. I educate myself and teach my children about love and respect for all people. I try to frequent small business as well as big box stores and find that most of it is about balance and often, I'll be honest, convenience. I don't donate directly to causes I don't believe in and while it is sad to me that some of my money may end up in the hands of organizations I don't support, I also think there is something to be said for freedom of speech and the ability of all to express their commitments.

    That said, I have a great deal of respect for those who commit to their beliefs and live their life in such a way that reflects that through everything they do.

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  • imagesunnytrees:

    Call me ignorant or hypocritical but if I was truly going to boycott every one and everything that disagrees with my beliefs, I'd have to never set foot in DH's parents house again!

    This.  Except I was thinking I'd never be able to leave my house and go anywhere ever again.  Pretty much everyone disagrees with at least one thing that I believe in so unless I want to move to a farm and become 100% self reliant on everything, someone, somewhere, that I disagree with is going to get money from me.


  • What I think people don't always realize is that sometimes companies contribute money to campaigns and causes not because they believe in them, but because they need a "favor" or need to sway somebody or something to side with them on future issues.  In prior positions where I've had access to higher up executives, we've even supported both sides of mayorial campaigns in order to get our projects approved. 

    So even though I may support GLBT causes, I don't base my decisions on spending money at these places based on campaign finances......because sometimes they are just trying to get business done and in the process they can't consider every single issue.  (Not that that's right, I know -- I'm just trying to add some more perspective on it) 

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  • imageDownToEarthGirl:

    imageSunflower22:
    Has Nike stopped using sweatshops?

    No idea - it's from the HRC perspective, so it might not take into account other human interests outside of the US.  I just don't know. 

    The HRC website's buying guide says, "They are watching to see if the businesses they patronize understand and honor issues important to them, giving buying power to issues ranging from LGBT inclusiveness to environmental protection."

     

    Nike has implemented a supplier's code of ethics and is working to educate and install ethical standards at its suppliers' facilities.  It's a work in progress but they have committed to doing the right :) and have reported positive results in their CSR reports.

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