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?'s for fellow Feds re: promotions
To be promoted to the next grade at your agency, do you have to wait for a job to open above your grade level and apply? That is, if your job is a GS-12 (not a 12/13 or anything) and a 13 opens up, do you have to apply or can you ever just get moved up?
And - if you are, say, a GS-9, and a GS-13 leaves, and you take over that 13's tasks permanently (not all of them, just some of them), can you make the case to be promoted to an 11 based on that at your agency? Or do you have to literally wait until a GS-11 opens up and apply for it?
Just trying to see what other folks do, you don't have to share what agency you're with or anything.
Wife, Musician, Fed, WW-er, and Mom of three little kids - not necessarily in that order.
Re: ?'s for fellow Feds re: promotions
I think (and I'm not usually the best person to get advice on these questions because I'm not a supervisor and have never hired or promoted anyone) that unless the next grade level is included in your position description, like you said 12/13 or whatever, a new position has to be created with that level in order for you to be promoted. And then you have to apply for it via USAJobs and all that fun stuff. I have maxed the grades in my current position and have been told that the only way to get promoted would be to create a "new" position.
I think the same would apply for your second scenario - unless the 11 is part of the pd, a new position would have to be created. If the position is already a 9/11, you could be promoted at any time after a year.
Baby248 - ETA 1/10/13
My info is only based on DHs experience. At his agency, if you have been formally put in as the 'acting' level (like if you are a 14 and acting as the 15) and it goes on for a year- you get the promotion. But, I am not sure if that is the situation you are describing.....
If your job is graded as a 12 (and not a 12/13, or 12/14, or whatever...) you can only get your within-grade increases. There's no promotion potential without applying for a new position. If higher pay is really what you're looking for, and you don't care about the grade itself - there are probably ways for a supervisor to give you a merit based within-grade increase.
If you feel your position should be reclassified (because you're doing GS-13 work) you can talk to your supervisor and HR about getting a desk audit. It's my impression that this is a big pain, though... so, you might be better off waiting for a GS-13 opening.
(Disclaimer - I'm not in HR!)
A desk audit - interesting...
This is what happened for my position/promotion (I just couldn't remember the right terms). It does require a fair amount of work on the part of your supervisor to justify the reclassification, so I think a lot of whether this is successful depends on your supervisor's willingness (plus agency resources, HR's willingness, etc). In my case, it took just over a year from start to finish (including applying for and getting hired for my job after the reclassification). However, the main HR person working on the reclassification passed away, so presumably it wouldn't take quite as long under normal circumstances.
Baby248 - ETA 1/10/13
To be promoted to the next grade at your agency, do you have to wait for a job to open above your grade level and apply? That is, if your job is a GS-12 (not a 12/13 or anything) and a 13 opens up, do you have to apply or can you ever just get moved up?
I **THINK** that legally the agency has the advertise the job. Then again, I've known people to be placed in their job (I did from a career intern program).
And - if you are, say, a GS-9, and a GS-13 leaves, and you take over that 13's tasks permanently (not all of them, just some of them), can you make the case to be promoted to an 11 based on that at your agency? Or do you have to literally wait until a GS-11 opens up and apply for it?
You could request a desk audit. I was in this position as a GS-9. Our GS-12 left so I was doing two jobs. When I went to seek other opportunities, my boss got me the audit and I got a GS-11 from it (she didn't want me to leave).
Just trying to see what other folks do, you don't have to share what agency you're with or anything.
I'm in DoD