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s/o: Schools providing books - Printing at colleges

K&K's post reminded me of a major annoyance I have with UNF right now. DH is in the nutrition and dietetics program. It is not unusual for a syllabus for one of his classes to be 10-15 pages long. The professors require students to have a printed copy, but don't print it themselves. They check the first day of class. This annoys the ever-loving fuuuuccckkk out of me. A) Why does it have to be printed? Ever heard of saving a tree? B) If you want it printed, print it your damn self! Ink is expensive! They require a ton of stuff to be printed in his classes and never print it out for them.

It wasn't like this when I was at UNF and it wasn't like this at Clemson. While I was at Clemson the students could print for free. When I graduated they had limited the number of pages a student could print for free per semester, but the professors still always printed the syllabus and handed it out in class. Like college isn't expensive enough between tuition and books, but now you're making me go through multiple ink cartridges a semester? I understand not having free printing but you can't print a damn syllabus? WTF???

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Re: s/o: Schools providing books - Printing at colleges

  • I don't think schools should provide free printing or even limited free printing, but I don't think they should require students to print out a syllabus. Who prints anything anymore? That's very dated of UNF to require.
  • That is very weird for a professor to not print out the syllabus, yet require them to have a printed copy. From what I know that isn't a common practice. Maybe in his program, not not campus wide.

    Having worked at 2 universities, you were very luck to have free printed or even limited free printing at Clemson. I haven't seen free printing in forever!

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  • I definitely agree about free printing. I'm well aware that it's not the norm and it was a nice perk at Clemson. I think they'll probably phase it out over time.

    You guys touched on my biggest issue with the whole thing. They require students to have a printed syllabus but don't give it to them. I'm not sure if this is the norm in other programs or not right now. I'd be interested to see if anyone knows.

    On another note, they don't allow laptops in class at all. This also contributes to the printing issue. A lot of the professors want students to take notes on the ppt slides so they have to print them since they can't just bring their laptops and put notes in the speaker section. One professor even chastised the class for not printing ppts when he first started in the program. I find it all really strange. 

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  • imageluckyinlove11902:

    I definitely agree about free printing. I'm well aware that it's not the norm and it was a nice perk at Clemson. I think they'll probably phase it out over time.

    You guys touched on my biggest issue with the whole thing. They require students to have a printed syllabus but don't give it to them. I'm not sure if this is the norm in other programs or not right now. I'd be interested to see if anyone knows.

    On another note, they don't allow laptops in class at all. This also contributes to the printing issue. A lot of the professors want students to take notes on the ppt slides so they have to print them since they can't just bring their laptops and put notes in the speaker section. One professor even chastised the class for not printing ppts when he first started in the program. I find it all really strange. 

    W.T.F.  Did UNF take a time machine to 1996?

    Who is they? All of UNF or just his whole department or just one professor?

    ETA: The professors banning laptops are old, aren't they? Old people and their resistance to technology...

  • I remember that our professors printed out a syllabus and handed to out the first day of class since they usually went over it.  FSU also would allow you to print out stuff for free int he computer labs around campus (I don't know if that is still the case).  Once I started grad school online I didn't print out the syllabus for any of my classes since everything could be found online through blackboard..

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  • Veering off topic here, but I loathed teachers who taught from powerpoint. It was especially awful in engineering classes when we were deriving formulas and stuff. Write that crap on the boards and work it out by hand, just like we have to! Maybe there are some teachers that can use PPT effectively, but in my experience most use it as a crutch and it really hurts the learning experience.

    (WRT the syllabus thing, I totally agree that it's ridiculous that they don't provide a printed copy but expect you to have one.) 

  • imageLucille Bluth:
    imageluckyinlove11902:

    I definitely agree about free printing. I'm well aware that it's not the norm and it was a nice perk at Clemson. I think they'll probably phase it out over time.

    You guys touched on my biggest issue with the whole thing. They require students to have a printed syllabus but don't give it to them. I'm not sure if this is the norm in other programs or not right now. I'd be interested to see if anyone knows.

    On another note, they don't allow laptops in class at all. This also contributes to the printing issue. A lot of the professors want students to take notes on the ppt slides so they have to print them since they can't just bring their laptops and put notes in the speaker section. One professor even chastised the class for not printing ppts when he first started in the program. I find it all really strange. 

    W.T.F.  Did UNF take a time machine to 1996?

    Who is they? All of UNF or just his whole department or just one professor?

    ETA: The professors banning laptops are old, aren't they? Old people and their resistance to technology...

    It's the department policy, so no, they're not all old. 

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  • That is annoying.  I graduated from UNF but don't recall having to have printed copies of them, but I was in the CIS department so it would be seriously backward for them to want us to have paper copies when there is such a drive in the IT world to go paperless.

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  • imageluckyinlove11902:

    I definitely agree about free printing. I'm well aware that it's not the norm and it was a nice perk at Clemson. I think they'll probably phase it out over time.

    You guys touched on my biggest issue with the whole thing. They require students to have a printed syllabus but don't give it to them. I'm not sure if this is the norm in other programs or not right now. I'd be interested to see if anyone knows.

    On another note, they don't allow laptops in class at all. This also contributes to the printing issue. A lot of the professors want students to take notes on the ppt slides so they have to print them since they can't just bring their laptops and put notes in the speaker section. One professor even chastised the class for not printing ppts when he first started in the program. I find it all really strange. 

    WTF!! That is definitely not an across campus thing. That is the most bizarre thing I have ever heard!  Making students print out ppts is very strange! You said it's the department, not just a weird old professor?  I'm so shocked to hear this! I totally believe you b/c some departments at UNF run their ship a little different, but this is crazy!!

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  • imageLucille Bluth:
    imageluckyinlove11902:

    I definitely agree about free printing. I'm well aware that it's not the norm and it was a nice perk at Clemson. I think they'll probably phase it out over time.

    You guys touched on my biggest issue with the whole thing. They require students to have a printed syllabus but don't give it to them. I'm not sure if this is the norm in other programs or not right now. I'd be interested to see if anyone knows.

    On another note, they don't allow laptops in class at all. This also contributes to the printing issue. A lot of the professors want students to take notes on the ppt slides so they have to print them since they can't just bring their laptops and put notes in the speaker section. One professor even chastised the class for not printing ppts when he first started in the program. I find it all really strange. 

    W.T.F.  Did UNF take a time machine to 1996?

    Who is they? All of UNF or just his whole department or just one professor?

    ETA: The professors banning laptops are old, aren't they? Old people and their resistance to technology...

    It's not resistance to technology. It's wanting students to pay attention in class. Most people who bring their laptops to class are on Facebook, etc, not just taking notes. That's why some of my professors didn't like laptops in class.  In one of my classes, the girl who sat in front of me was planning her wedding almost every class (she was on The Knot, venue websites, etc). 

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  • imageSoon2BMrsSikes:
    imageLucille Bluth:
    imageluckyinlove11902:

    I definitely agree about free printing. I'm well aware that it's not the norm and it was a nice perk at Clemson. I think they'll probably phase it out over time.

    You guys touched on my biggest issue with the whole thing. They require students to have a printed syllabus but don't give it to them. I'm not sure if this is the norm in other programs or not right now. I'd be interested to see if anyone knows.

    On another note, they don't allow laptops in class at all. This also contributes to the printing issue. A lot of the professors want students to take notes on the ppt slides so they have to print them since they can't just bring their laptops and put notes in the speaker section. One professor even chastised the class for not printing ppts when he first started in the program. I find it all really strange. 

    W.T.F.  Did UNF take a time machine to 1996?

    Who is they? All of UNF or just his whole department or just one professor?

    ETA: The professors banning laptops are old, aren't they? Old people and their resistance to technology...

    It's not resistance to technology. It's wanting students to pay attention in class. Most people who bring their laptops to class are on Facebook, etc, not just taking notes. That's why some of my professors didn't like laptops in class.  In one of my classes, the girl who sat in front of me was planning her wedding almost every class (she was on The Knot, venue websites, etc). 

    This is the reasoning behind it, but in the long run, it hurts the students who care more than helps the students who don't in my opinion. Students that don't want to pay attention are not going to pay attention. If a student wants to spend the whole class on FB, let them. Don't punish other students who would benefit from being able to type their notes. I was a TA for three years at Clemson and even when we told people to close their laptops for things, the ones that didn't care about the class found other ways to distract themselves.

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  • imageSoon2BMrsSikes:
    It's not resistance to technology. It's wanting students to pay attention in class. Most people who bring their laptops to class are on Facebook, etc, not just taking notes. That's why some of my professors didn't like laptops in class.  In one of my classes, the girl who sat in front of me was planning her wedding almost every class (she was on The Knot, venue websites, etc). 

    Who cares? They're college professors, not babysitters. That girl was paying to be in that class and she can spend her time there how she wants. If she can pass the class while still being on the knot, more power to her. That's the not the professor's responsibility to dictate. They're grown ups - not children. I hate attendance policies for this reason too.

  • imageLucille Bluth:

    imageSoon2BMrsSikes:
    It's not resistance to technology. It's wanting students to pay attention in class. Most people who bring their laptops to class are on Facebook, etc, not just taking notes. That's why some of my professors didn't like laptops in class.  In one of my classes, the girl who sat in front of me was planning her wedding almost every class (she was on The Knot, venue websites, etc). 

    Who cares? They're college professors, not babysitters. That girl was paying to be in that class and she can spend her time there how she wants. If she can pass the class while still being on the knot, more power to her. That's the not the professor's responsibility to dictate. They're grown ups - not children. I hate attendance policies for this reason too.

    Oh I completely agree. I feel like if you're paying to be there, you should be able to do whatever the hell you want, but that was the reason my professor gave. They also said that other students were distracted by the people on their laptops. Which is true. My nosy self paid attention to everything the chick in front of me was looking at. I kept wanting to give her wedding advice. LOL 

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  • imageLucille Bluth:

    imageSoon2BMrsSikes:
    It's not resistance to technology. It's wanting students to pay attention in class. Most people who bring their laptops to class are on Facebook, etc, not just taking notes. That's why some of my professors didn't like laptops in class.  In one of my classes, the girl who sat in front of me was planning her wedding almost every class (she was on The Knot, venue websites, etc). 

    Who cares? They're college professors, not babysitters. That girl was paying to be in that class and she can spend her time there how she wants. If she can pass the class while still being on the knot, more power to her. That's the not the professor's responsibility to dictate. They're grown ups - not children. I hate attendance policies for this reason too.

    ITA with this. I think the logic holds for high school (especially public), where the school/state feels some degree of obligation to bring kids up to a certain level of education. But college is optional and expensive, and now you work for me. If I want to read a book in class, that is my prerogative as long as I'm not keeping anyone else from learning. Give me a break!

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