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another health-care related question

The AIDS post got me thinking about people getting screwed and having to pay lost of money for treatment/medicine. And I was reminded of a time when I was in the emergency room waiting for my fiance` to get an x-ray. The man waiting before us was a French tourist who had broken his arm badly while on vacation here in the U.S.

So...does anyone know how that works? I mean, if healthcare is free in France, but he hurts himself here on vacation, does that mean he has to pay? And conversely, if you are on a trip in France and break your arm, is it free to be treated? 

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Re: another health-care related question

  • A lot of tourists coming to the US buy temporary insurance that they can use while over here (goes along with trip insurance I think).  You know, because we have such amazing healthcare!

    I think if you're in a country with a national health system, you generally don't have to pay for emergency treatment, even if you're not a citizen.


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  • imageEssBe:

    A lot of tourists coming to the US buy temporary insurance that they can use while over here (goes along with trip insurance I think).  You know, because we have such amazing healthcare!

    I think if you're in a country with a national health system, you generally don't have to pay for emergency treatment, even if you're not a citizen.

    I don't know anything about this at all, really, but Michael Moore got those Americans treated for free while in Cuba in Sicko.

  • That's very interesting. So what is to stop someone from the U.S. who was dropped from their health insurance for getting cancer from going to France to get free treatment? I've thought of getting my dual citizenship for Italy just in case things get worse here for healthcare (not that Italy's health care system is stellar, but might be better than here).
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  • My H became very ill when we were in the Netherlands for a few months.

    We did get bills for the medical treatment but they were laughably small.

    For instance, we went to the ER and he had several tests run including blood tests and CT scans and an MRI and I think that was about 125 Euro.

    And then, we went to a specialist and saw him like 5 or 6 times, but only had to pay for one visit because the entire treatment course including follow up is considered a part of the initial treatment determination so they don't charge each time. That also included more blood work and all sorts of scans and tests. Under 100 Euro.

     

    The medicine was more costly, but still less than we would pay here. it was a new drug and injectable version but we looked at the rate we would pay with insurance here in the US and it was still a fraction of the cost.

    Now, we did see a lot of vacationers get injured and treated. I am not sure how that works out for a one time session. We were there for several months and had an address there, so that may be why it was different.

    Also, there was a tourist doc who saw people for common illnesses and he cost 49.50 Euro a visit with no insurance plan.

  • imageEssBe:

    A lot of tourists coming to the US buy temporary insurance that they can use while over here (goes along with trip insurance I think).  You know, because we have such amazing healthcare!

    I think if you're in a country with a national health system, you generally don't have to pay for emergency treatment, even if you're not a citizen.

    Oh no, you have to pay, you just pay the Canadian costs. If I were to be injured in the US, my own country would fund emergency treatment to a point, but then I'd have to settle out of pocket/with other insurance because your prices are outrageous & beastly.

    mostly you're reimbursed. But I do NOT travel to the US without backup insurance. Because that *** is expensive.

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  • Yeah there's usually an "out of country guest/visitor" price list in the dr's office. You have to pay.
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  • While in Chile, I got very sick from drinking the water in Panama.  I saw a doctor and got a prescription and paid out of pocket for both.  The total was around $100.

    I asked my insurance once, and they told me we should do whatever we have to in the country we are visiting, and then submit the claim as an out-of-network provider claim.  I don't really have a lot of confidence in the call-center answer, though, and haven't tested it.  When we've gone on our most extreme trips (Patagonia, Tibet), we have gotten trip insurance that would have covered medical and possible evacuation costs.

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