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So..... A question for the twin moms....

When/how did you find out you were having twins? I am over the moon for a friend of mine who just found out at her 20wk(!) u/s. She has barely had any morning sickness or any other symptoms to hint that there was more than one. 

Also, they are in 2 separate sacs, does that mean fraternal or no? She already has one boy and they were only able to tell the sex of one of the babies (another boy).

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Re: So..... A question for the twin moms....

  • imageMrsChelseaP09:

    When/how did you find out you were having twins? I am over the moon for a friend of mine who just found out at her 20wk(!) u/s. She has barely had any morning sickness or any other symptoms to hint that there was more than one. 

    Also, they are in 2 separate sacs, does that mean fraternal or no? She already has one boy and they were only able to tell the sex of one of the babies (another boy).

    Obviously I am not a twin mom but I think identical twins can split into two separate sacs.  But I am not 100% on that.   

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  • I found this online......

    Identical Twins


    With identical twins, one egg (zygote) from the mother is fertilized by one sperm from the father, and then very early in development the embryo splits and two fetuses grow. Spontaneous division of the zygote into two embryos is not considered to be a hereditary trait, but rather a spontaneous or random event.

    If the zygote splits very early (in the first 2 days after fertilization) they may develop separate placentas (chorion) and separate sacs (amnion). These are called dichorionic, diamniotic (or 'di/di') twins.  While all fraternal twins are 'di/di', this occurs 20 - 30% of the time in identical twins.

    Most of the time in identical twins the zygote will split after 2 days, resulting in a shared placenta, but two separate sacs. These are called monochorionic, diamniotic ('mono/di') twins.These twins are very similar genetically, and share a single afterbirth. 

    Very occasionally, twins will also share the same sac (fluid cavity). In about 1% of identical twins the splitting occurs late enough to result in both a shared placenta and a shared sac. These are called monochorionic, monoamniotic ('mono/mono') twins.

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  • imageMrs.Jason.9.15.07:

    I found this online......

    Identical Twins


    With identical twins, one egg (zygote) from the mother is fertilized by one sperm from the father, and then very early in development the embryo splits and two fetuses grow. Spontaneous division of the zygote into two embryos is not considered to be a hereditary trait, but rather a spontaneous or random event.

    If the zygote splits very early (in the first 2 days after fertilization) they may develop separate placentas (chorion) and separate sacs (amnion). These are called dichorionic, diamniotic (or 'di/di') twins.  While all fraternal twins are 'di/di', this occurs 20 - 30% of the time in identical twins.

    Most of the time in identical twins the zygote will split after 2 days, resulting in a shared placenta, but two separate sacs. These are called monochorionic, diamniotic ('mono/di') twins.These twins are very similar genetically, and share a single afterbirth. 

    Very occasionally, twins will also share the same sac (fluid cavity). In about 1% of identical twins the splitting occurs late enough to result in both a shared placenta and a shared sac. These are called monochorionic, monoamniotic ('mono/mono') twins.

     

    TY! :) 
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  • imageMrsChelseaP09:
    imageMrs.Jason.9.15.07:

    I found this online......

    Identical Twins


    With identical twins, one egg (zygote) from the mother is fertilized by one sperm from the father, and then very early in development the embryo splits and two fetuses grow. Spontaneous division of the zygote into two embryos is not considered to be a hereditary trait, but rather a spontaneous or random event.

    If the zygote splits very early (in the first 2 days after fertilization) they may develop separate placentas (chorion) and separate sacs (amnion). These are called dichorionic, diamniotic (or 'di/di') twins.  While all fraternal twins are 'di/di', this occurs 20 - 30% of the time in identical twins.

    Most of the time in identical twins the zygote will split after 2 days, resulting in a shared placenta, but two separate sacs. These are called monochorionic, diamniotic ('mono/di') twins.These twins are very similar genetically, and share a single afterbirth. 

    Very occasionally, twins will also share the same sac (fluid cavity). In about 1% of identical twins the splitting occurs late enough to result in both a shared placenta and a shared sac. These are called monochorionic, monoamniotic ('mono/mono') twins.

     

    TY! :) 

    I thought it was interesting.  I did not know how early on the egg splits determines the number of placentas and sacs.  The human body is an amazing thing! 

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  • It's crazy, isn't it?  (says the girl who knows more about fertilization, splitting and embryo symettry than I would have ever thought I would 22 months ago :))

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  • My doctor told me yesterday that we would know then whether it was one or two babies.  I believe because there would be two sacs...
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  • imageblondeG8Rbride:
    My doctor told me yesterday that we would know then whether it was one or two babies.  I believe because there would be two sacs...
    Yup - they can see the number of sacs on an ultrasound around 5 weeks.  However, in the not so common case of a shared sac, you can't wouldn't know until you saw the number of heartbeats. Cells actually start splitting between 48-120 hours - and when they split is linked the number of sacs. 
    Me: 35 DH: 37 TTC since 4/2010
    DX: 6/9/2011: Azoo ICSI/IVF only option for biological child
    IVF #1: ER - 9/26 * ET - 10/1 * beta#1 10/13 - 140 * beta#2 10/17 - 477 * beta#3 10/20 - 1101
    1st u/s at 6w6d - one hb * 2nd u/s at 8w3d - no hb detected 11/10/11 * natural m/c 11/13/11
    FET #1 Jan/Feb 2012 - 3 delays - cancelled 2/13
    FET #1.2 - May/June 2012 - ET 6/6/* beta#1 6/15 - 95 * beta #2 6/19 - 322 * beta #3 6/22 - 940
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  • imageblondeG8Rbride:
    My doctor told me yesterday that we would know then whether it was one or two babies.  I believe because there would be two sacs...
    Her first u/s was at 20wks. I'm not sure why but she didn't get one before then. 
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  • imageAegis2005:
    imageblondeG8Rbride:
    My doctor told me yesterday that we would know then whether it was one or two babies.  I believe because there would be two sacs...
    Yup - they can see the number of sacs on an ultrasound around 5 weeks.  However, in the not so common case of a shared sac, you can't wouldn't know until you saw the number of heartbeats. Cells actually start splitting between 48-120 hours - and when they split is linked the number of sacs. 

    I think you should be awarded a MD from Google University :P   

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  • Since Kathy already answered your question, I just wanna say holy sh!t at finding out at 20 weeks!!!  I thought I found out kind of on the late side at 12 weeks. 
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  • Oh and I also wanted to say that I really didnt have much morning sickness either.  I had it but nothing bad so morning sickness is not an indication of twins...  If it was YOU should have had twins, Chelsea Stick out tongue
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  • imageSouthSeasBride:
    Since Kathy already answered your question, I just wanna say holy sh!t at finding out at 20 weeks!!!  I thought I found out kind of on the late side at 12 weeks. 

    I think Delta (Andrea) found out at 20 weeks too.  But my memory sucks so I could be making that up. 

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  • The only reason I found out at 12 weeks is because I elected to do the NT scan.  Had I not, I wouldn't have had one until 20 weeks either, but I would like to think that I was getting pretty big and the Dr would have ordered one!  Who knows. 
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  • imageMrsChelseaP09:
    imageblondeG8Rbride:
    My doctor told me yesterday that we would know then whether it was one or two babies.  I believe because there would be two sacs...
    Her first u/s was at 20wks. I'm not sure why but she didn't get one before then. 
    I didnt have my first u/s until the end of 1st tri.
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  • imageSouthSeasBride:
    holy sh!t at finding out at 20 weeks!!!
    This was the man reason for my post. I find it hard to believe that they wouldn't have at least heard 2 heartbeats by the time she was 20wks along. I guess you are right about the m/s thing... lol. I should have had triplets! Wink
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  • imageMrsChelseaP09:
    imageSouthSeasBride:
    holy sh!t at finding out at 20 weeks!!!
    This was the man reason for my post. I find it hard to believe that they wouldn't have at least heard 2 heartbeats by the time she was 20wks along. I guess you are right about the m/s thing... lol. I should have had triplets! Wink

    LOL!

    When they are looking for a heart beat with the doppler (prior to knowing there are mulitples), they have no reason to keep looking after finding one.

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  • imagejen812:
    imageMrsChelseaP09:
    imageblondeG8Rbride:
    My doctor told me yesterday that we would know then whether it was one or two babies.  I believe because there would be two sacs...
    Her first u/s was at 20wks. I'm not sure why but she didn't get one before then. 
    I didnt have my first u/s until the end of 1st tri.
    Confession: I was hoping you were going to announce in this post that you were having twins.
    I don't know what I would do with twins. 

    My confession: I want another baby SO bad but don't think I could handle DD & the Hyperemesis again :( I know I survived it but the thought of it all makes me want to get my tubes tied.

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  • imageMrsChelseaP09:

    imagejen812:
    imageMrsChelseaP09:
    imageblondeG8Rbride:
    My doctor told me yesterday that we would know then whether it was one or two babies.  I believe because there would be two sacs...
    Her first u/s was at 20wks. I'm not sure why but she didn't get one before then. 
    I didnt have my first u/s until the end of 1st tri.
    Confession: I was hoping you were going to announce in this post that you were having twins.
    I don't know what I would do with twins. 

    My confession: I want another baby SO bad but don't think I could handle DD & the Hyperemesis again :( I know I survived it but the thought of it all makes me want to get my tubes tied.

    Adoption?
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  • imagejen812:
    imageMrsChelseaP09:

    imagejen812:
    imageMrsChelseaP09:
    imageblondeG8Rbride:
    My doctor told me yesterday that we would know then whether it was one or two babies.  I believe because there would be two sacs...
    Her first u/s was at 20wks. I'm not sure why but she didn't get one before then. 
    I didnt have my first u/s until the end of 1st tri.
    Confession: I was hoping you were going to announce in this post that you were having twins.
    I don't know what I would do with twins. 

    My confession: I want another baby SO bad but don't think I could handle DD & the Hyperemesis again :( I know I survived it but the thought of it all makes me want to get my tubes tied.

    Adoption?
    We have been talking about it, but its just so expensive. 
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  • I know. Good luck with your decision.
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  • imageMrs.Jason.9.15.07:

    imageSouthSeasBride:
    Since Kathy already answered your question, I just wanna say holy sh!t at finding out at 20 weeks!!!  I thought I found out kind of on the late side at 12 weeks. 

    I think Delta (Andrea) found out at 20 weeks too.  But my memory sucks so I could be making that up. 

    Good memory!  Yup I found out at 20 weeks and "holy sh!t" about sums up what my hubby and I both screamed out at the U/S.  I opted not to do the NT scan at 12 weeks and my doc in ATL did not do early U/S unless there was a need...such as high risk, age, etc. etc.  Soooo that being said, when we would hear the heartbeat she would move the doppler around a bit but I guess it never registered that it was two distinct heartbeats, maybe b/c they were so similar?  I have no clue!  Anyways yes it was a big shock and honestly I had been pretty sick, but not anywhere near as bad as some people have it and I was in no way showing like there were two babies in there.  Now, of course AFTER I found out I balloned up and became a giant beastly pregnant woman! lol!  I only went to 32 weeks but at that time I was measuring 40 weeks!  

     Also...my guys are identical but they had their own sacs and shared one placenta.   

  • Ughhhhh, Chelsea I feel your pain!!!! The Hyperemesis was the worst and I would not look forward to another pregnancy! Now the high blood pressure and bed rest is kicking my butt, but nothing can be worse than the MS. A coworker of mine has it bad too and itself so awful for her!!
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  • Sorry to butt in so late! I found out very early on. Maybe 4-5 weeks? I can't believe I already forgot. But I was seeing an RE so I had an U/S immediately after BFP. I did have bad morning sickness but it was mostly nausea with no vomiting (maybe 1-2X). Nothing that was indicative of the crazy twin stories I have heard. But I have heard of people finding out at 20 weeks...some people's insurance only covers 1 u/s and that one that is usually the anatomy scan. 
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