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talk me in or out of keeping bathroom floor

Our house was built in the 1940's...We're getting our bathroom redone and have the option of having a new floor installed over the old one. I don't know what the new floor would look like. Our contracter gave us 2 estimates, one to get new walls and tile around the shower (this is what we need), and one 3 times as much to do everything (still affordable). So we didn't get into the details of the 2nd one. 

I want to keep it, I like the charm, I like the look. There is hairline cracks in various spots but no gapes or holes. Husband wants new floor.

I found the look on home depot's website

http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10051&langId=-1&catalogId=10053&productId=202497914&R=202497914

Re: talk me in or out of keeping bathroom floor

  • It's unclear what's included in "everything" but if I were re-doing my bathroom, I'd redo the floors too. Especially if they are not in great condition. If you like the look, you can try to find something similar to replace it with. That's my 2? Smile
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  • I would redo them. As you start replacing everything else, you'll probably look back and want to kick yourself for not doing everything. Also as someone who is in the process of gutting bathrooms, in ripping up bathroom floors you often find problems that could easily be corrected before they become major issues. The previous owners may have had water leakage problems and could've just covered them up with more flooring instead of ripping them out and replacing.
  • He won't be ripping them up so I'll never know what's underneath...I think they are the orginal floor so I don't think it's a coverup

  • the floor you have is the basket weave, like in the link? If so I wouldnt' change it, I LOVE the baseket weave, and I love vintage looking tile (like penny tile or basket weave, not the huge ugly 60's pink and blue we had). If the tile he is replacing would go with the style of what you have it woudln't be worth the money or the hassle to me. Newer is not always better.
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  • yes, that's a dead on match to the floor I have now...I like it too, and I like the idea of keeping it since it's orginal

     

  • I'm all for doing it once and doing it right - but if I was going to replace the beautiful old tile that you have now I'd do something similar (or at least true to the 1940s look) and insist on tearing up the old stuff.  No way I'd let them lay tile right over the old stuff.

    To the extent that cost is a factor, there's no way the three times estimate is based on new floors alone - so it sounds like you need some more information there.  You should be getting line item detail from your contractor so that you can pick and choose what you want (and negotiate the details).

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  • imageRagdolls:

    I'm all for doing it once and doing it right - but if I was going to replace the beautiful old tile that you have now I'd do something similar (or at least true to the 1940s look) and insist on tearing up the old stuff.  No way I'd let them lay tile right over the old stuff.

    To the extent that cost is a factor, there's no way the three times estimate is based on new floors alone - so it sounds like you need some more information there.  You should be getting line item detail from your contractor so that you can pick and choose what you want (and negotiate the details).

    ditto rags completely. I love vintage tile and your old tile looks beautiful, but if you were going to replace the floor (and I also agree with whoever said you may look back in a few years and wish you had) I'd want them to actually replace the floor.  I would not want them to just lay the tile over the existing tile. And laying the tile over the existing tile is not adding three times to the cost of your estimate, unless it is a super pricey tile.   

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  • imageRagdolls:

    I'm all for doing it once and doing it right - but if I was going to replace the beautiful old tile that you have now I'd do something similar (or at least true to the 1940s look) and insist on tearing up the old stuff.  No way I'd let them lay tile right over the old stuff.

    Ditto. Don't let them just put the new flooring on top of it. You should have them rip out the old to check out the condition of the subfloor first.

  • imageCooper81:
    the floor you have is the basket weave, like in the link? If so I wouldnt' change it, I LOVE the baseket weave, and I love vintage looking tile (like penny tile or basket weave, not the huge ugly 60's pink and blue we had). If the tile he is replacing would go with the style of what you have it woudln't be worth the money or the hassle to me. Newer is not always better.

    Ditto- I love classic black and white bathrooms.  They're so charming!  If it's in bad enough shape that you think it's worth replacing, I would try to keep the same style.  After several years of wear, it probably won't be that obvious that it isn't original.

  • My guess is that if it's 3X's as much they know they are going to have to replace the sub-floor, maybe renforce the floor beams/framing and possibly have to use a self-leveler to make it sturdy enough.  

    side story.  Our house was built in the early 60's and we replaced the flooring in our half bath ourselves.  We ripped out the old laminate, which was just placed on top of the original vinyl.  DH and his dad put a new subfloor down, but the framing was really bad.  Well now 2 years later, the grout is cracked in severeal places because the sub floor wasn't sturdy enough and they had to install it in 2 pieces because the room was too small to fit the full piece in.  So while it was DIY, if you have an old house and the install isn't done properly that might become an issue.

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  • I wouldn't lay new flooring on top of old; that's a recipe for disaster down the line. 
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  • The reason why it's probably 3x as much is because back in the day (30's- 50's), to install that type of floor, they would basically spread cement onto the floor and lay the tile directly into that -no floor in between or anything. So if you are going to get it ripped out it is going to be messy and pricy. IMHO if your floor is in good condition, I wouldn't do it. (SFIL is a contractor who has encountered this numerous times and has done reno's that involved ripping it out.)
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