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Is vacation time negotiable?

Hi all! 

I have been offered a position, but the vacation is terrible - nothing the first year, then 10 days. Is that negotiable at all? I'm used to three weeks and it being available immediately.

 Thanks! 

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Re: Is vacation time negotiable?

  • Everything is negotiable. I got an extra week when I got my job because I had 3 weeks at my last job.

    I've never worked at a place were it was available immediately though. I am surprised they don't work on an accrual basis. That seems very common.

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    I've never worked at a place were it was available immediately though. I am surprised they don't work on an accrual basis. That seems very common.

    Every place I've worked - we accrue it, but it's technically available to us up front.  The caveat being, though, that if you quit before you've accrued what you've used - you're going to owe the company.

    Where I work now, we can roll over so much time, it doesn't matter.  But at my old company, we couldn't roll it over and if we couldn't use our time before we accrued it, then EVERYONE would have to take the last couple days of the year off! 

    And back to the OP- I can't believe NO vacation time the first year at all.  HOnestly, even if you could negotiate more time, companies that are THIS stingy w/ vacation time strike me as a company that aren't going to be very "work/life balance" friendly.

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    I've never worked at a place were it was available immediately though. I am surprised they don't work on an accrual basis. That seems very common.

    And back to the OP- I can't believe NO vacation time the first year at all.  HOnestly, even if you could negotiate more time, companies that are THIS stingy w/ vacation time strike me as a company that aren't going to be very "work/life balance" friendly.

    I've been at a company for the last three years where we only got 5 vacation days a year. It is one of the many reasons I started to look for a new job. There is no balance and everyone gets burned out.  I would try to negotiate it because not having any vacation time at all is a dealbreaker to me.

  • Everything is negotiable.  I've negotiated pay, to vacation time, to paying zero for my health insurance while others had to pay premiums out of thier checks.  It all matters what is most important to you.  I once worked for a company where the HR person said they EXPECT people to negotiate when they offer them a job, it shows a lot of character and ambition.  Anyways, what is the worst they are going to say "No"? Big deal, they won't retract their offer and you might get something really beneficial out of it.
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    I've never worked at a place were it was available immediately though. I am surprised they don't work on an accrual basis. That seems very common.

    Every place I've worked - we accrue it, but it's technically available to us up front.  The caveat being, though, that if you quit before you've accrued what you've used - you're going to owe the company.

    I've worked at places where you can go negative but it is frowned upon. I've also worked at placed where you couldn't borrow at all and had to take unpaid leave if you didn't have any in your bank. I only mention this because "borrowing" or up front leave is not always the standard.

    While earning vacation is a pain it has never been a big deal for me. We don't ever take more than 5 days off at a time and I can earn that with in 6 months.

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  • I think it actually is accrued, I don't mean to say I want to take it all up front or even in the first 6 months. I just want vacation available during the first year. And 10 days seems really low to me, but maybe I've just had better vacation policies in the past.
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    I think it actually is accrued, I don't mean to say I want to take it all up front or even in the first 6 months. I just want vacation available during the first year. And 10 days seems really low to me, but maybe I've just had better vacation policies in the past.

    is it a really small company?

  • It's a corporate office for a large company, but the corporate office only has around 15-20 people.
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  • It depends. I knew on my last interview that negotiating vacation time would not have done any good. Part of this was their mention of the economy and whatnot and another part was the fact that they offered me more money than they had wanted to, but told me I was worth it.

    But, you can try.

  • It is definitely negotiable, but obviously not always granted!

    Some companies are more willing to grant more vacation days than an increase in salary, especially if you're coming in near the top of their "pay grade" for your position.  You can always ask, worst is they'll say "no".  Just take it into consideration when you decide whether or not to accept the position.

     Alternatively, will they let you take time off without pay or "buy" additional vacation days?

     Good luck!  I would struggle with less than 3 weeks vacation.  Heck, I struggle with 3 weeks vacation!

  • My last job, I tried to negotiate for more.  They said on, and I asked for more money instead (I would have rather had vaca!).  The amount of additional money they gave me more than paid for the vacation I didn't get.  Makes no sense to me!  But I could have taken up to 2 weeks a year of unpaid vaca, so I sort of had that in my back pocket (never ended up needing it) and also go more money every month.  Win win for me.
  • My FIL runs his own business.  He doesn't offer benefits or vacation time for the first year of employment.  He's also not employee friendly and not a very nice person in general.  He always wonders why his turn over rate is high.

    I think vacation time is negotiable.  Especially if you have plans set up ahead of time. 

     

     

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