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Punishing teenagers

Some teenage girl posted a rant on her facebook about how her parents make her do chores and she's not their slave.  Dad responds by making her a video (shown in the link) reading and responding to her letter and then shooting her laptop with a gun, then posting the video on her FB page. Part of me thinks that the brat deserved it and the other part of me thinks he could have just given the laptop to some needy kid and it would have had the  same effect. 

 

http://shine.yahoo.com/parenting/punish-daughter-dad-destroys-her-laptop-tough-love-224600770.html

Re: Punishing teenagers

  • I love it. Totally, totally love that he posted this on her Facebook.

    The only responsibilities you have is to get up on time and get on a bus. Haaaa ha ha ha ha ha.

    As for the actual shooting of the laptop, I don't agree with that, but to each their own. I would have shown it being run over by a car, thrown off a building or simply being broken in half or something.  

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  • It's half term here and a bunch of teenage kids have been skateboarding along the front of our office / college. A British staff member of mine went out to tell them to leave and they recorded her with their phones, and then refused to leave! So a Chinese staff went out there and told them that this is private property and that I don't care if they are here after 6 but before then they can't be skateboarding here - they told her that they would leave if she paid them!

    So she told them to get off the property or she would call the police and they finally left.

    The cheek of kids these days! I don't think I ever would have behaved so disrespectfully toward a business at that age. 

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  • smoking while shooting the video is AWESOME.
  • I think she deserved it, but I also think posting that video to her wall was trashy.  It could've been handled privately.  
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    As for the actual shooting of the laptop, I don't agree with that, but to each their own. I would have shown it being run over by a car, thrown off a building or simply being broken in half or something.  

    What's the difference?  It's being destroyed in all scenarios.   

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    I think she deserved it, but I also think posting that video to her wall was trashy.  It could've been handled privately.  

     

    I agree. I'm not sure I agree with him posting it on her Facebook page. She is 15 for goodness sakes. 

     

    We're watching a TV show at the moment about out of control Spanish young people. Both so far have been over 18. I've been telling DH the whole time that these girls need a nasty taste of "you're living in my house, you're following my rules, if you don't like it the door is to your right." 

  • One of my students is straight up failing almost all of her classes. She is smart, but avoids work at all costs. She got a perfect score on her quiz in my class today and she was super excited, asking me to let her take it home today because she wanted to show her mom. I was so happy she was excited about doing well, taking an interest in her grades... Right up until she says, "Now I get twitter back!" 

    How about two weeks of doing her homework and THEN she gets to waste time on twitter? Because that would do a lot more than a 10 word vocab quiz to keep her from repeating a grade. 

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  • imageEmily523:
    I think she deserved it, but I also think posting that video to her wall was trashy.  It could've been handled privately.  
    Maybe the parents already tried the private route and saw she.needed public humiliation for it to make any difference. I don't agree with destroying the laptop but I a willing to bet these parents were at their wits end and this grand gesture really got to her. So what if sh is 15? That just tells me she is old enough to know better than to be so disrespectful towards her parents and expect to get away with it. I honestly see no reason why it was trashy of her parents to do this in public.
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    imageEmily523:
    I think she deserved it, but I also think posting that video to her wall was trashy.  It could've been handled privately.  
    Maybe the parents already tried the private route and saw she.needed public humiliation for it to make any difference. I don't agree with destroying the laptop but I a willing to bet these parents were at their wits end and this grand gesture really got to her. So what if sh is 15? That just tells me she is old enough to know better than to be so disrespectful towards her parents and expect to get away with it. I honestly see no reason why it was trashy of her parents to do this in public.

    Agree to disagree?  :) I never would agree with public humiliation of my child.   

  • The dad referred to the daughter already doing something similar a few months prior. I think it makes sense to put the video on her FB page. 1) She more than once trashed her family there, and 2) seems to be highly encouraged by the responses she got in that public forum. Hopefully she'll learn some valuable lessons from this.

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    As for the actual shooting of the laptop, I don't agree with that, but to each their own. I would have shown it being run over by a car, thrown off a building or simply being broken in half or something.  

    What's the difference?  It's being destroyed in all scenarios.   

    I don't feel that owning a hand gun as a non-law enforcement citizen / military citizen is necessary or appropriate. So I think it's fine that he destroyed the laptop - I don't think it's normal or appropriate that he even has a hand gun and is so knowledgeable about the types of bullets that he has, etc.  

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    The dad referred to the daughter already doing something similar a few months prior. I think it makes sense to put the video on her FB page. 1) She more than once trashed her family there, and 2) seems to be highly encouraged by the responses she got in that public forum. Hopefully she'll learn some valuable lessons from this.

    I agree.  

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    One of my students is straight up failing almost all of her classes. She is smart, but avoids work at all costs. She got a perfect score on her quiz in my class today and she was super excited, asking me to let her take it home today because she wanted to show her mom. I was so happy she was excited about doing well, taking an interest in her grades... Right up until she says, "Now I get twitter back!" 

    How about two weeks of doing her homework and THEN she gets to waste time on twitter? Because that would do a lot more than a 10 word vocab quiz to keep her from repeating a grade. 

     

    Please tell me you called Mom ASAP after hearing that. 

    Gosh, I hate that. 

  • imageFayeD:

    The dad referred to the daughter already doing something similar a few months prior. I think it makes sense to put the video on her FB page. 1) She more than once trashed her family there, and 2) seems to be highly encouraged by the responses she got in that public forum. Hopefully she'll learn some valuable lessons from this.

     

    Oh, how the times have changed. I'm glad that when I was her age I only had AIM and ICQ. I was a real jerk to my parents at that age. 

  • But what is she learning from this experience?  That is my concern.  Do you have to treat a teen horribly and make them feel like *** to have them learn a lesson?  This is the antithesis of what we teach in my parenting course.  She is not learning how to treat people fit, she's not learning how to communicate correctly,she's not learning self-control or respect.  The dad hasn't shown respect to her or himself with this and so it will have a short term effect - that's what punishment does.  More likely than not, she'll learn to hide her feelings and misbehaviours better instead of learning anything positive from this.
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  • I think its great. It's the shock factor that he was going for, and hopefully he got it. Hopefully in the future she will realise that he means business and they can now go on to live lives that she can learn to respect her parents and take some responsibility. She will learn from this experience, maybe not from the actual video, but from the experience. I wish someone had done this to my 18 year old sister, she may not be in the sticky situations that she is in now and might actually have finished high school.
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    But what is she learning from this experience?  That is my concern.  Do you have to treat a teen horribly and make them feel like *** to have them learn a lesson?  This is the antithesis of what we teach in my parenting course.  She is not learning how to treat people fit, she's not learning how to communicate correctly,she's not learning self-control or respect.  The dad hasn't shown respect to her or himself with this and so it will have a short term effect - that's what punishment does.  More likely than not, she'll learn to hide her feelings and misbehaviours better instead of learning anything positive from this.

     

    I don't necessarily disagree with what you are saying but as a parent how long can you be expected touts try to talk to your child like an adult and get no change? Teens are not adults. Sometimes they need to be punished to learn a lesson like all kids do. I don't think saying " I'm so disappointed in you" for the 100th time always gets through to them. I just think you're doing thema disservice to teach them that their behavior has no consequences. Real life does not work that way. If she grows up and posts some similar rant about her employer who makes her do *** jobs, which lets face it, everyone experiences at some point, she will lose her job if they find it. They won't it down to have a heart to heart about how valid her feelings are, theyll fire her. And rightfully so! That attitude will not serve her well in the long run. And frankly, I think showing respect to your parents and elders is one thing of extreme importance that it really seems l Ike most people have lost sight of teaching their kids bc they are so hyper focused on making sure their kids feel happy and like they're equal in standing in their families to their parents. Sorry, but there are times my kids get a say nd times they don't and they need to learn that. Nt everything is up for discussion just bc they think t heir opinion is as valuable as their parents.

     

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  • imageukyankee:
    But what is she learning from this experience?  That is my concern.  Do you have to treat a teen horribly and make them feel like *** to have them learn a lesson?  This is the antithesis of what we teach in my parenting course.  She is not learning how to treat people fit, she's not learning how to communicate correctly,she's not learning self-control or respect.  The dad hasn't shown respect to her or himself with this and so it will have a short term effect - that's what punishment does.  More likely than not, she'll learn to hide her feelings and misbehaviours better instead of learning anything positive from this.

    That. 

  • I think that he's getting a massive hurrah response because it's about time we see and hear about parents doing SOMETHING about their kids. Whether or not this is the best possible solution / example - the jury is still out. But he's not just rolling over and taking it like millions of parents right now and then wondering why their teenager is in trouble.

    Recently there was an article in the paper here about a kid here in the UK that actually wrote a death threat to Santa if she didn't get an iPhone for Christmas. Her school found it or something and brought it to the attention of the girl's mother, because it was so violent and aggressive. The girl was like, 13 or something. What did the girl's mom do? BOUGHT HER AN IPHONE because she obviously wanted it really, really badly. 

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  • Please note that I and my course are not against consequences. But it needs to be kind and respectful to both parties. My guess is that these parents haven't done this her entire life. I can't go into details as I'm on my phone, but a lot of it is about communication and including the teen in the decision about what should happen if they make a wrong move. Punishment teaches you the wrong things and is only short term. It's been proven many times over. Humiliation is never the right answer and may lead her to making really bad choices about herself and her life. 
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