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What do you think about this?

I heard this on the radio this morning and thought it would be a great hot topic. I do not share this opinion though.

A woman called into a radio show this morning. She said that she was a size 2 and has been all of her life and that she works very hard to stay that way. Her opinion was that since she is a much smaller size in clothing than bigger sized people that she should pay less for clothes since it's less fabric being used. She compared it to when you get your hair dyed woman who have longer hair pay more since they have more hair than people with shorter hair. What does OK nesties think about this?

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Re: What do you think about this?

  • Well, based on her logic, she is right.

    I think her argument would have been better supported if she wouldn't have given her size.  Because of that, I think most would automatically disagree with her.

  • Well that would mean I'd have to pay even more for clothes than I do now, so no thanks. And what would the limitations be--what size would be considered using "extra fabric", where would the price increase start? I think it's easy for a size 2 person to say this is a great idea, but I think it's BS.
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  • imagedrillerswife:
    Well that would mean I'd have to pay even more for clothes than I do now, so no thanks. And what would the limitations be--what size would be considered using "extra fabric", where would the price increase start? I think it's easy for a size 2 person to say this is a great idea, but I think it's BS.

    Thanks for proving my point.

     

  • S always complained because his clothes were more expensive because he needed tall or extra-long in everything, so really, smaller clothes were cheaper. 

    Also, as a side note, I never knew the price for coloring your hair was based on the length

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  • imageShansBride:

    S always complained because his clothes were more expensive because he needed tall or extra-long in everything, so really, smaller clothes were cheaper. 

    Also, as a side note, I never knew the price for coloring your hair was based on the length

    Yup.

    One of my coworkers pointed out to me today that at Wal-mart, anything above an XXL is $1 or $2 more. If you consider that fabric is, what, $5 a yard, that makes sense.  Now, according to my conversation with Ami, this chick a doodle on the radio thinks that her clothes should be like half the price of say, a size 13 which doesn't make any sense if you are simply talking about the true cost of a piece of fabric.  If you are charging $13 for a pair of size 2 jeans and $30 for a pair of size 13 jeans, well, that is just retarded and has nothing to do with the cost of fabric.

  • Logically, I'm ok with this. DH (a 2XL) already pays more for his tshirts most of the time than if he wore a S-->1X, so this already happens. Theoretically, I think I'm OK with it (for the record, I'm solidly in the middle of the "misses" sizes.) BUT when you buy fabric en masse like most manufacturers do, it's pretty damn cheap for most stuff. So, how about we pay an extra 20 cents per each additional size. That should more than cover it at most major retailors.

    From a business perspective, I think the idea sucks. It seems like an awesome way to alienate 90% of your customers.

    Ethically, my desire would be that we all pay $2.00 more per piece of clothing we buy, to go directly into the pockets of the woman or child in the developing world who got paid 22 cents to make my $40 blouse.

     

     

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    imagedrillerswife:
    Well that would mean I'd have to pay even more for clothes than I do now, so no thanks. And what would the limitations be--what size would be considered using "extra fabric", where would the price increase start? I think it's easy for a size 2 person to say this is a great idea, but I think it's BS.

    Thanks for proving my point.

     

    The fact is that she did give her size, so it rubbed me the wrong way. And you're welcome. Besides, like pps pointed out, larger sizes are often more expensive.
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  • I do get her logic, but come on! Now, I do wear a small size, but would never think I should pay cheaper prices. I look at it as, if you are smaller, such as her size 2, she can have the option to wear the designer brands. This is unfair, since most designers do not make clothes for average to bigger women. So, should the designers charge less for the women who can wear their clothes?
  • imageIPmama:
    I do get her logic, but come on! Now, I do wear a small size, but would never think I should pay cheaper prices. I look at it as, if you are smaller, such as her size 2, she can have the option to wear the designer brands. This is unfair, since most designers do not make clothes for average to bigger women. So, should the designers charge less for the women who can wear their clothes?

    Say what?  Which designers are you refering to?

  • Like others said, since this concept already exists, it doesn't bother me. Same thing with children's clothes right? They don't cost as much as mine do they? During Christmas I bought my sister's BF a men's medium shirt. It was laughable to me. It seemed so tiny compared to H's XXL. It was a lot less material. I see why we pay more for his clothes.
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  • As others have already noted, there already is a price differential in clothing based on size i.e. children vs. adult, XXL vs smaller sizes. I think the price of "extra" fabric is negligible. Prices for clothing are already much higher than the cost of manufacturing them, so a consistent price across various sizes just means that the manufacturer makes slightly less profit for the larger sizes.
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  • image+PuppyWuppy+:

    imagedrillerswife:
    Well that would mean I'd have to pay even more for clothes than I do now, so no thanks. And what would the limitations be--what size would be considered using "extra fabric", where would the price increase start? I think it's easy for a size 2 person to say this is a great idea, but I think it's BS.

    Thanks for proving my point.

     

    I think you're absolutely right that people dismiss it because she's a size 2, and really I don't see that as a problem. After all, HER size is the motivation for complaining, why can't her size be motivation to roll your eyes and move on. I don't believe for a minute that there isn't some element of superiority involved since she mentions both her size and how she's earned it. That tells me she feels entitled to cheaper clothes because she deserves them and not based on ecomoics.  In that case, my response is get over yourself. 

    From an actual cost standpoint, I don't think it makes sense either.  The cost of fabric is a very small portion of the total cost, when we consider that the manufacturing, storage, shipping, marketing, management, overhead, etc are all constant regardless of garment size.  The cost savings in fabric probably wouldn't even cover the cost or printing different price tags for each size point and tracking more complicated inventory costs, so the manufacturer / vendor may even lose profit in that scenario. 

     

     

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    imagedrillerswife:
    Well that would mean I'd have to pay even more for clothes than I do now, so no thanks. And what would the limitations be--what size would be considered using "extra fabric", where would the price increase start? I think it's easy for a size 2 person to say this is a great idea, but I think it's BS.

    Thanks for proving my point.

     

    I think you're absolutely right that people dismiss it because she's a size 2, and really I don't see that as a problem. After all, HER size is the motivation for complaining, why can't her size be motivation to roll your eyes and move on. I don't believe for a minute that there isn't some element of superiority involved since she mentions both her size and how she's earned it. That tells me she feels entitled to cheaper clothes because she deserves them and not based on ecomoics.  In that case, my response is get over yourself. 

    From an actual cost standpoint, I don't think it makes sense either.  The cost of fabric is a very small portion of the total cost, when we consider that the manufacturing, storage, shipping, marketing, management, overhead, etc are all constant regardless of garment size.  The cost savings in fabric probably wouldn't even cover the cost or printing different price tags for each size point and tracking more complicated inventory costs, so the manufacturer / vendor may even lose profit in that scenario. 

     

     

  • imageWendyToo:
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    imagedrillerswife:
    Well that would mean I'd have to pay even more for clothes than I do now, so no thanks. And what would the limitations be--what size would be considered using "extra fabric", where would the price increase start? I think it's easy for a size 2 person to say this is a great idea, but I think it's BS.

    Thanks for proving my point.

     

    I think you're absolutely right that people dismiss it because she's a size 2, and really I don't see that as a problem. After all, HER size is the motivation for complaining, why can't her size be motivation to roll your eyes and move on. I don't believe for a minute that there isn't some element of superiority involved since she mentions both her size and how she's earned it. That tells me she feels entitled to cheaper clothes because she deserves them and not based on ecomoics.  In that case, my response is get over yourself. 

    From an actual cost standpoint, I don't think it makes sense either.  The cost of fabric is a very small portion of the total cost, when we consider that the manufacturing, storage, shipping, marketing, management, overhead, etc are all constant regardless of garment size.  The cost savings in fabric probably wouldn't even cover the cost or printing different price tags for each size point and tracking more complicated inventory costs, so the manufacturer / vendor may even lose profit in that scenario. 

     

     

    That's a great point. I didn't even think of that.

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    imageIPmama:
    I do get her logic, but come on! Now, I do wear a small size, but would never think I should pay cheaper prices. I look at it as, if you are smaller, such as her size 2, she can have the option to wear the designer brands. This is unfair, since most designers do not make clothes for average to bigger women. So, should the designers charge less for the women who can wear their clothes?

    Say what?  Which designers are you refering to?

    I am discussing more that a designer creates a look for a woman who is smaller, for example, when you look at the models they choose to walk the runway or do their look book.

    I read this column once, about how designers don't design for women above size 8, but make the 8+ sizes due to the market, and national average size of a woman. It went on to discuss how after a certain size, maybe 12? They just add on fabric without thinking of how it way lay on the woman. Etc. 

  • Some places, like Land's End, DO add extra cost to the plus sizes. Their regular sizes will be on sale, but not the plus sizes, and the cost is normally $5-10 more when not on sale. Sometimes a little more, especially for dresses.

    I don't think her argument is valid, in that Wendy is right: it's not the cost of the fabric. I mean, are shorts really all that less expensive than pants? Are skirts? They have less fabric, but they aren't really that much cheaper, if at all. I would likely pay the same price for a pair of capris as I would for a pair of full-length trousers.

    She sounds a little like a whiny brat. Good for her for being small, I guess, but it doesn't necessarily mean she's healthy or "deserves" a break at the register. 

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