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Have we talked about this?

http://spousebuzz.com/blog/2012/02/army-spouses-to-blame-for-kia-notification-text.html

(I'm guessing it's not clicky because, well, I suck at TN.

 

An Army wife found out her H had been KIA via text messages and FB.

No matter how much I see spouses leak on FB all the time, it still amazes me that people would put it on FB or text her.  I get that maybe they didn't know if she knew, but have a little freaking common sense and compassion.

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Re: Have we talked about this?

  • It's clicky for me.

    I cannot get over the fact that someone would send a text along the lines of "sorry your husband was KIA".  Seriously?  At least pick up the phone and be prepared to leave a voicemail message.

    With that said, why wasn't the company this soldier was from not under a com blackout until notification was made?  Don't they do that anymore?  I know T was subjected to that a few times during his first deployment and it wasn't even someone from his company.

    This whole situation reeks of failure in common sense and standard procedures.

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    It's clicky for me.

    I cannot get over the fact that someone would send a text along the lines of "sorry your husband was KIA".  Seriously?  At least pick up the phone and be prepared to leave a voicemail message.

    With that said, why wasn't the company this soldier was from not under a com blackout until notification was made?  Don't they do that anymore?  I know T was subjected to that a few times during his first deployment and it wasn't even someone from his company.

    This whole situation reeks of failure in common sense and standard procedures.

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    With that said, why wasn't the company this soldier was from not under a com blackout until notification was made?  Don't they do that anymore? 

    the artical said they were under a communications blackout until the next of kin could be notified, but it got out anyway.

     

    What a horrible horrible situation. I feel just terrible she had to find out like that.

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  • There are some offices that can't blackout comms for various reasons so someone probably disregarded the blackout and blabbed when they called home. Stupidness all around. That poor girl.
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  • Danm. What a sucky situation; and it is concerning that this is not an isolated incident (according to the article).
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  • I saw that the other day. 

    This is the kind of thing that makes me want to quit FB. 

     

     


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  • Poor girl to find out such a thing via text and FB. These spouses clearly dont have any brains or compassion. I can't imagine finding out like that my H is dead.
  • To be honest, this is one of my worst fears, especially this deployment. My heart goes out to her. 

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  • I guess my TN skills must be slight better than I give myself credit for.  

    In general I hate how so many people feel the need to hear news and immediately run to FB without even thinking about the repercussions.  Especially with military news, because then it just becomes a complete nightmare of the rumor mill and he said/she said.   

    I think this quote from the article sums up the issue with all of that though:  

    "So here?s the problem with this whole thing: the Army?s casualty notification process relies on a combination of trusting spouses who do have privileged information (whether rightly or wrongly ? and sometimes they get it through no fault or action of their own ? I know because I?ve been there) to keep their mouths shut, and those that don?t have information to not speculate when something is clearly amiss."

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  • Its horribly sad that she had to find out such sad information that way. Many thoughts and prayers to her.
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  • It's just so unbelievably sad.....and I feel for the moron that told her. Though I can't imagine how that text message actually even got written and sent....pick up the damn phone. 
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  • This makes my heart sink. :( I am getting more and more annoyed with people oversharing on Facebook but this takes the cake.

     

    I also can't believe people send condelences via text. Granted when my Dad passed away I got a ton of FB messages and Wall posts from old friends but I believed at the time it was because people didn't have my number.

  • Every single time there is an accident in H's world, his family was texting me at work. He finally talked to them about it, and thankfully it has stopped. 
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  • I'm just going to C&P my response from the thread on MF.

     

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    I put the blame on the SM who told the blabber mouth spouse. There was a communications blackout for a reason. He should not have told her until the blackout was lifted. 

    Yes, it's totally normal to want/need to talk to your spouse when someone close to you is KIA. But that need absolutely does not trump the deceased's family's right to find out through the official notification system.

    My guess is that the blabber mouth spouse wasn't saying something like, "Oh, BTW do you know your H is dead?" but probably more along the lines of, "I'm so sorry. I just heard. Please let me know if there is anything I can do for you." All in good faith. That person's SM clearly either never mentioned the blackout or didn't stress it enough.

     ETA: I just feel sorry for the major. I imagine he was blindsided and just had no clue what to do. And really, if you were her, would you have let him off the phone until he told you?

    Exactly this. The service member should've kept his big mouth shut until river city was lifted. Blabber mouth wife wouldn't of had anything to text if her H would've followed protocol.  

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  • How terrible. It just annoys the hell out of me that those women who texted and posted on FB were spouses that she hadn't talked to in months or hardly knew, I can't stand those type of people. Anything dramatic, they just have to be a part of it. My heart goes out to Mrs. Born. I agree with PP though too, that SM made a huge mistake.

    In similar news, my grandfather passed away the other day and I found out through FB when my cousin, who had not spoken to my grandparents in years after an argument, posted a picture of him with the caption "RIP Pop, you were a great grandfather, father, brother, son, soldier, and man". This is how I found out. On a FB status from a long-lost cousin. Once again, people who just thrive off of anything dramatic. Ugh.

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    To be honest, this is one of my worst fears, especially this deployment. My heart goes out to her. 

    This was my biggest fear during H's first deployment, especially since I was out of town so much and my key volunteer sucked. I was terrified I was going to learn about his death over the news or internet.

    At one point, I started leaving a note on my front door every time I left town with my phone number on it because I was so worried about it.  

    Damn.  At that point, I'd start communicating with rear-d.  On DH's first deployment, I had a crazy-busy travel schedule, mostly for work.  Rear-D eventually assigned someone to keep track of where the hell in the world I happened to be that week, in case they had to find me.

    So, my travel itineraries were put together (flight, hotel, contact info), and emailed to DH, my parents, a few of my close friends in town, my key caller (who never responded), the rear-d commander (he asked me to, in person), and the guy the rear-d commander assigned to keep track of me.

     

    In one of the "just before departure" meetings, I posed the question about what I should do if I was travelling.  And I was told to keep them informed.  So I did.

    It probably didn't hurt that within the first month after DH left, I was home for less than a week, total, and my travels included two continents, three countries, and multiple states.  That somewhat set the tone for that deployment...  I wasn't sure if they'd still be able to notify in a timely fashion, but, gosh darn it, I was going to make sure they could find me if they needed to.

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    imageSpunkyBlowfish:

    To be honest, this is one of my worst fears, especially this deployment. My heart goes out to her. 

    This was my biggest fear during H's first deployment, especially since I was out of town so much and my key volunteer sucked. I was terrified I was going to learn about his death over the news or internet.

    At one point, I started leaving a note on my front door every time I left town with my phone number on it because I was so worried about it.  

    In theory, they know how to find me but the disorganization here is what I imagine will be the downfall. We have a parent unit but we fall under two others for various reasons and it makes it confusing. 

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