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WAKE UP! I'm bored and need attention, so answer my poll.

This is inspired by a story that I don't want to share here, because it makes me sad.
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Re: WAKE UP! I'm bored and need attention, so answer my poll.

  • imoanimoan member
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    I voted absolutely.  Any child who can torture an innocent, defenseless animal is not fixable- IMO.
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  • Is it fair to say it depends on the animal? As a child I once poured salt on a slug just to see what would happen (and because slugs are gross), and while I feel some remorse, I'd prefer not to have been euthanized for it.
  • What in the world inspired this poll....
  • imoanimoan member
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    Damn!  I didn't read all the responses... can I change mine to the last one ;o)
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  • I think a lot of it depends on the age and the extent of torture. I used to pull my mom's cat's tail and I'm really glad no one gave me the death penalty for it since I was about 2.

    But, if a child is old enough to be tried as an adult if he tortured a human, then the same treatment should go for torturing an animal.  I'm also one of those hippies who thinks that animal cruelty laws should be stricter than they are.  I don't like that people are able to get away with things just because "it's an animal".

  • I personally know very very yong children who are cruel to animals. Very Scary!!!!

     

  • I know exactly what you're referencing, since it's one I reference when I say I think that since I've been a vegetarian for forever there should be some kind of karmic switch where I don't have to see sh*t like that. But I agree that those kids can't be fixed.
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  • this is a really weird poll, but it's slow, so i'll answer. i'm sure my answer is flameful and will get a lot of side eyes. but, heck no! i don't believe in the death penalty at all and i sure as heck don't think a kid should be killed (why was the term euthanized used?) for torturing an animal.

    of course i think the kid should be punished. but the death penalty? no! i think this depends on so much. where are the child's parents? what is his upbringing like? etc. 

  • imagebroccolitree:
    I know exactly what you're referencing, since it's one I reference when I say I think that since I've been a vegetarian for forever there should be some kind of karmic switch where I don't have to see sh*t like that. But I agree that those kids can't be fixed.

    what is she referencing? i need a back story! 

  • Lurker jumping in because this poll is interesting:

    I'm really conflicted on this one.  I think, if an older kid is repeatedly torturing animals (in a "budding sociopath" kind of way) and exhibits some/all of the other markers of sociopathy, I do believe the kid is likely "unfixable" and poses a real threat to the community, and I would not be opposed to permanently removing the kid from society.  That said, I'm philosophically opposed to the death penalty, so I can't sign off on the "euthanize them" option. 

    Also, I'd be interested in finding out whether intensive therapy or other interventions can "cure" sociopathy - it's not something I've ever looked up before, but I'd think if a cure of some kind is possible, we have an obligation to provide it to kids who exhibit this kind of behavior before we decide to just permanently write them off.

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  • No you don't. It falls into can't unsee territory. Really bad.
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  • okay fine, can i at least have some pertinent info. how old is he? is this a first offense?
  • I watch way too many episodes of Criminal Minds (Shemar Moore anyone?) and love animals whole bunches.  So...I say off with their heads. 
  • Ok, in reference to the story, I vote DEATH. No way are they ever going to be anything but psychopathic killers. Anyone who purposely hurts something else in such a disgusting and deliberate way doesn't deserve to be free in our society. 

    In other situations, I think it depends on the act, the age of the kid, whether they understand what they did, if they're remorseful, etc.

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  • I don't know which story prompted the post, but if it's the first offense, watch the hell out of those kids to see what (if any) sick and twisted things they'll do next.

    It's hard to judge with this stuff.  Case-by-case basis is probably the best.  Kids who have a history of the behavior, though...eesh.

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  • imagesmock.smock:
    Is it fair to say it depends on the animal? As a child I once poured salt on a slug just to see what would happen (and because slugs are gross), and while I feel some remorse, I'd prefer not to have been euthanized for it.

     Lurker here, but this response made me crack up.  I did the exact same thing (because slugs freak me out!) when I was about 6 or 7.  My mom saw the aftermath and said, "Oh no!  I bet that was a mama slug and now all her babies are orphans!"  I cried.  For days.

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