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imoan · March 2012

Please go to my blog and read my latest post (no, this isn't a ruse to get more blog traffic... it just has info that I don't feel like retyping).

What do you think?

doglove · March 2012

Eh, I think I'd skip it and move on without looking back. That was hurting my eyes just try and read a page!

ESDReturns · March 2012

I don't see what's so un-readable about that. Geez imoan. (kidding)

Um yeah, if it wasn't mentioned in the episode, no way would I read that. My eyes started to cross after the first sentence.

notquiteblushing · March 2012

No way would I forge on. That looks terrible.

What happens in that episode btw?

Interrobang · March 2012

Oy, that was special. I got through 2 paragraphs (of the book, not your blog, lol), but they weren't a pleasant experience. Just say no.

ESDReturns · March 2012

Interrobang:
Oy, that was special. I got through 2 paragraphs (of the book, not your blog, lol), but they weren't a pleasant experience. Just say no.

LOL I actually did read the whole part that was up, but I think my eyes might be permanently crossed now. Ouch. Like, they actually really do hurt lol.

calle28 · March 2012

skip it. it shouldn't be on the list anyway because it wasn't mentioned of gg.

BeebeeEater · March 2012

Holy oystrygods gaggin fishy-gods Batman! No farking way.

Skip it.

smock.smock · March 2012

If you don't read it, you draw into question the integrity of your entire challenge. I, for one, would stop reading and subscribing to your blog, because you're essentially perpetuating a fraud upon your readers by "changing the rules" in the middle of the game.

JUST KIDDING! Yeah, don't read it.

imoan · March 2012

Thanks guys! This is what I'm leaning to. It would be one thing if it was a legitimate reference... you know I'd find a way to just power through it. But before I even KNEW what the contents were like... I had that whole discussion with my friend about whether or not it was an actual reference. So it's not just being lazy or stupid... I was questioning the legitimacy of the reference beforehand.

Like I said in my blog post... I would LOVE to be that .01% of the population, but I have so much more to read, I'm not sure Finnegans Wake is worth my time.

BeebeeEater · March 2012

You could read a page a day as a bedtime story for the next two years...

broccolitree · March 2012

In terms of your challenge I don't think it counts. It isn't a reference within an episode, and it isn't much of a reference outside of an episode. In terms of reading, if you do go forward with it, I stringly suggest you find an annotated or scholarly copy. As a text on its own for casual reading it is fairly incomprehensible. The most mentioned part is the first and last line, heh. It begins and ends in the middle of a sentence.

ESDReturns · March 2012

I really don't understand how he got that published lol.

Mortomo · March 2012

Holy moly! Now and then I enjoy reading things that are difficult to read just for the challenge, but that's more than what I want to take up for a challenge.

broccolitree · March 2012

Stream of consciousness writing both in prose and poetry, and the breaking down of classic conventions of writing as a whole were vvery much in vogue thenn. Gertrude Stein, Faulkner, etc.

Also, hes James f*ckin Joyce. He could sign a urinal R Mutt and haave it displayed ina gallery if he wanted.

imoan · March 2012

smock.smock:
If you don't read it, you draw into question the integrity of your entire challenge. I, for one, would stop reading and subscribing to your blog, because you're essentially perpetuating a fraud upon your readers by "changing the rules" in the middle of the game.

JUST KIDDING! Yeah, don't read it.

You're such a b|tch!

imoan · March 2012

broccolitree:
Stream of consciousness writing both in prose and poetry, and the breaking down of classic conventions of writing as a whole were vvery much in vogue thenn. Gertrude Stein, Faulkner, etc.

Also, hes James f*ckin Joyce. He could sign a urinal R Mutt and haave it displayed ina gallery if he wanted.

This and this.

It's like when people don't understand abstract art (like a single blue line down one side of a canvas). It's not that it's pretty... it's that that person's the first to do something of that nature. It's innovative. And innovation in use of language is not something you come across every day.

imoan · March 2012

broccolitree:
In terms of your challenge I don't think it counts. It isn't a reference within an episode, and it isn't much of a reference outside of an episode. In terms of reading, if you do go forward with it, I stringly suggest you find an annotated or scholarly copy. As a text on its own for casual reading it is fairly incomprehensible. The most mentioned part is the first and last line, heh. It begins and ends in the middle of a sentence.

I had already looked into annotated versions and study guides for Finnegans Wake (and there are a LOT because apparently NO ONE understands it). I downloaded a sample of one and the writer's suggestion was to listen to it via an audio book while reading along because the writing is more musical/lyrical and is easier to understand given tone and cadence of the sentences.

BeebeeEater · March 2012

I don't see anything innovative about it...doesn't stream of consciousness still indicate that, you know, the person is conscious? As opposed to their brain melting out their ears and their hands randomly hitting typewriter buttons?

I think the modern day equivalent would be the short works of a monkey given an iPhone with auto-correct.

ESDReturns · March 2012

BeebeeEater:
I don't see anything innovative about it...doesn't stream of consciousness still indicate that, you know, the person is conscious? As opposed to their brain melting out their ears and their hands randomly hitting typewriter buttons?
I think the modern day equivalent would be the short works of a monkey given an iPhone with auto-correct.

BWhahahahahahahahahahaha, yes.

broccolitree · March 2012

abs, stream of consciousness doesn't just mean like 'my name is broc but not really I'm typing at a keyboard and also wishing I didn't have a thin mint for breakfast because I'm burping mint and maybe we'll have baked ziti for dinner and that won't go but dinner is a long way off'. It means using words in new and crazy ways, like how the actual consonants feel to say, and how the word itself looks on the page (W can be spiky, Os are soft and inviting on the page, for instance).

It fell out of vogue pretty quickly though, because like Cage's prepared piano, people realized that doing it once was cool and innovative and doing it more than that made you look like a derivative douchebag.

imoan · March 2012

BeebeeEater:
doesn't stream of consciousness still indicate that, you know, the person is conscious?

Finnegans Wake is actually about a dream. So... no.

imoan · March 2012

broccolitree:
It fell out of vogue pretty quickly though, because like Cage's prepared piano, people realized that doing it once was cool and innovative and doing it more than that made you look like a derivative douchebag.

Amen!

imoan · March 2012

From what I can tell, most of the words aren't just nonsensical. They appear to be so at first glance, but a lot of the words are combinations of words that already exist in the English language... therefore giving one sentence two (maybe three or four!) meanings. That's what I think makes this most difficult. When you read normally, you come across most words that have a single meaning. Occasionally you hit one that has multiple meanings, but you can easily infer from the context which meaning fits. In Finnegans Wake, each word can have multiple meanings... all of which Joyce actually wanted you to use.

broccolitree · March 2012

Also, imoan, I've seriously considered starting a Gilmore Girls blog where I watch the episodes and review them because of your blog. I haven't watched an episode and don't know what happens other than Lauren Graham is a single mom and that one girl is her daughter and they talk really fast. lol. IDK that I actually have the follow-through to do it, though.

imoan · March 2012

broccolitree:
Also, imoan, I've seriously considered starting a Gilmore Girls blog where I watch the episodes and review them because of your blog. I haven't watched an episode and don't know what happens other than Lauren Graham is a single mom and that one girl is her daughter and they talk really fast. lol. IDK that I actually have the follow-through to do it, though.

Do it. Although I reserve the right to ruin your reputation all over the internet if you start saying negative things about THE BEST SHOW EVER!

Muddled · March 2012

broccolitree:
Also, imoan, I've seriously considered starting a Gilmore Girls blog where I watch the episodes and review them because of your blog. I haven't watched an episode and don't know what happens other than Lauren Graham is a single mom and that one girl is her daughter and they talk really fast. lol. IDK that I actually have the follow-through to do it, though.

Do it, Broc! YOu and imoan can have a race to see who finishes first.

imoan · March 2012

Muddled:
broccolitree:
Also, imoan, I've seriously considered starting a Gilmore Girls blog where I watch the episodes and review them because of your blog. I haven't watched an episode and don't know what happens other than Lauren Graham is a single mom and that one girl is her daughter and they talk really fast. lol. IDK that I actually have the follow-through to do it, though.

Do it, Broc! YOu and imoan can have a race to see who finishes first.

That's just mean!

I actually thought it would be cool to also go through the entire series and watch all the movies they reference. Just like the books... they mention a LOT of movies that I know I should have seen and it's a shame that I haven't yet.

Muddled · March 2012

imoan:
Muddled:

broccolitree:
Also, imoan, I've seriously considered starting a Gilmore Girls blog where I watch the episodes and review them because of your blog. I haven't watched an episode and don't know what happens other than Lauren Graham is a single mom and that one girl is her daughter and they talk really fast. lol. IDK that I actually have the follow-through to do it, though.

Do it, Broc! YOu and imoan can have a race to see who finishes first.

That's just mean!

I actually thought it would be cool to also go through the entire series and watch all the movies they reference. Just like the books... they mention a LOT of movies that I know I should have seen and it's a shame that I haven't yet.

How is it mean? If I were a betting woman, and I am, my bet is on you, imoan.

Muddled · March 2012

imoan:
Muddled:

broccolitree:
Also, imoan, I've seriously considered starting a Gilmore Girls blog where I watch the episodes and review them because of your blog. I haven't watched an episode and don't know what happens other than Lauren Graham is a single mom and that one girl is her daughter and they talk really fast. lol. IDK that I actually have the follow-through to do it, though.

Do it, Broc! YOu and imoan can have a race to see who finishes first.

That's just mean!

I actually thought it would be cool to also go through the entire series and watch all the movies they reference. Just like the books... they mention a LOT of movies that I know I should have seen and it's a shame that I haven't yet.

How is it mean? If I were a betting woman, and I am, my bet is on you, imoan.

BettyBookworm · March 2012

Oh man, skip it. I was forced to read that book in High School for English. It was torture, and I wouldn't revisit it for all the tea in China!

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