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Philosophical Walking Dead question
This may have been discussed on here, but have they ever explained on the show why all the surviving humans want to kill anyone who is not in their set group? I understand that supplies are low and whatnot, but there is strength in numbers, right? It just seems odd to me.
FTR, I'm watching last week's episode and am only a few minutes in, so maybe they'll discuss it more.
Re: Philosophical Walking Dead question
**Spoilers** (Just in case!)
I don't think they really want to kill anyone who is not int he set group, it's more that they don't want the threat I believe. If he is telling the truth, then Randall's group has more people than Rick & Shane's group and they also raped teenagers for fun. Rick and Shane's group feel that the other group is a threat, and they do not want them to find them because there is a possibility that they would harm or kill them.
I'm not even sure if Randall's group would have shot at Rick, Hershel, and Glen if they hadn't have killed the two guys in the bar. I think the guys that shot at Rick and the others thought felt that Rick's group was a threat after finding out their buddies were dead. I think the groups just want to protect themselves as much as they can. Since there are no laws to abide by anymore people can pretty much do whatever they want without consequence and that is a really scary thought.
I agree with this. I don't think they want to kill all new people they come across but I think they are at the point where they realize they are on totally their own and there are no laws to protect them and no one is coming to save them. So they figure it's better to be cautious. I think in Randall's case they just don't want him to bring the other members of his group to where they are because of the violent interaction they have already had with them earlier in town. So I think it's just about limiting threats.
This is what makes the show interesting to me. I like how it shows how different people are handling things and how people's morals are adjusting to this new world.
Early on, it may have made sense to form larger groups to pool resources, but now that things have been going on for so long, not so much. If you trusted someone new before, you might have gotten your food stolen and you found more. Now, it's too risky.
And I agree with PP, that it's not just about killing anyone in your group, but not giving them the chance to kill you. DH and I already agreed that we would have left that kid behind or shot him to put him out of his misery. Clearly we think too much about this stuff.
I agree that Randall and his crew probably just shot at Rick, Glen and Herschel because Rick flat out stated he shot the first two guys. Would you believe Rick's explanation, or would you decide you can't take the risk now that he's killed two of your people? If Darryl and Merle were the first two of the main group I came across, I would not be inclined to trust them. It's the same on Star Trek - first contact missions are the most dangerous. It takes mission specialists, not armed desperate drunks barely coping in a hardscrabble post-apocalyptic urban hell.
The only way this works is if either group, knowing where the other group is, sends an unarmed envoy as a show of good faith. But it doesn't look like we're going in that direction.
I LOVE Falling Skies! Can't wait for that to come back. I think it's a bit of a different situation, since you kind of need more people to try and fight back against the enemy. With the walkers, sometimes too many people can be a hassle.
I think the whole thing of tying Randall up was perhaps premature. I do think that action turned him against them. I think they just don't have an effective way to evaluate the morals of others.
And even within our heros, Shane is ethically hanging on by a thread and would probably be on a rampage without positive influences.